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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#71626: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:35:55 AM

[up]Have you read the American comics?

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#71627: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:38:39 AM

I once saw a video explaining that Sonic's jackass attitude is Values Dissonance from British culture compared with American and Japanese. Many kids characters were expected to have a mean streak to them, like Dennis the Menace.

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#71628: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:41:17 AM

[up][up]If that's aimed at my post, then no. I'm basing my jokey description off how the games written by SoA and come across and what I've seen of the old 90s cartoons.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#71629: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:47:12 AM

AOSTH Sonic isn't very rebellious.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71630: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:47:31 AM

Archie Sonic = Political drama about a teenager dealing with his growing maturity into adulthood, engaged in a war with a dictator who seeks to snuff out all organic life.

IDW Sonic = Superhero action series with occasional dips into character drama.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 9th 2023 at 1:50:55 PM

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#71631: Mar 9th 2023 at 10:58:57 AM

All I know is that I once read a series retrospective of STC by a British guy and even he thought that Sonic was a douche.

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#71632: Mar 9th 2023 at 11:39:44 AM

As with everything it depends on the writer. I grew up with the British Sonic books, and he had the standard "'tude", but he didn't seem super bad. He also didn't cause Robotnik to turn. The books and the Fleetway comics, followed the Kintobor origin story. At least in the books, Sonic didn't wilfully cause the accident, it was just a necessary reality of a Stable Time Loop. He even tried to avert it.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#71633: Mar 10th 2023 at 9:45:08 AM

A Bumblekast video had a comment that mentioned Sonic and the Death Cheese, which I'd never heard of before.

It's hilarious and I love it XD It also got a fan animation and a sequel in two parts, which also got an animation.

(Also does anyone know what music plays at 1:55 as Eggman announces his weapon?)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Mar 10th 2023 at 12:46:36 PM

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#71634: Mar 10th 2023 at 1:12:15 PM

Sonic in STC did deliberately cause the accident because it was the only way to stop the Brotherhood of Metallix who had changed history so they rule a version of Mobius that was completely robotic called Planet Metallix.

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Planet Metallix

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Dictionaryman616 Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#71635: Mar 10th 2023 at 1:20:11 PM

How did the Archie Sonic Comic Multiverse work? And if so, which was the first one to go to an alternate universe?

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#71636: Mar 10th 2023 at 1:31:57 PM

Sonic The Comic Sonic went into the Fleetway's version of the Special Zone in issue 8 which is a different universe. However if you mean another universe with their own version of the Sonic characters then it is issue 168 which features an universe where it was Sonic that suffered the rroc accident turning him in to the evil King Sonic.

So it is probably Archie Sonic.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#71637: Mar 10th 2023 at 1:42:17 PM

The Archie Sonic universe had a bunch of a different universes. As far as them being important to the plot:

  • Zonic was the name of a Sonic who was a zone cop, who basically existed to keep the zones from getting messed up. Also, his home zone, and everything in it, including Zonic, was at a 90 degree angle to everything else.
  • Robo-Robotinik appeared in Issue 22. He was from a universe similar to the main one, but here Robotnik roboticized himself. The Robotnik from the main universe died in Issue 50. Then in Issue 75, after a lot of lead-up, Robo-Robotnik became the new main villain, downloading his digital consciousness into a body that looks like the Egggman from Sonic Adventure.
  • In Issue 11, Sonic went to a universe where the good guys were bad and the bad guys were good. Generally speaking. It's a bit more complicated than that. Anti-Sonic, for example, was a bad dude who wore a leather jacket. This guy would later become Scourge.
  • Then there was the time Mammoth Mogul tried to take over the universe, and Tails had to team up with a bunch of others Tailses from different universes to beat him. They did this by merging into a big super-muscular Tail called Titan Tails.

Edited by WillKeaton on Mar 10th 2023 at 5:13:44 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71638: Mar 10th 2023 at 2:18:39 PM

And when Sonic asked Zonic why he doesn't intervene when Robo Robotnik took over, its because the multiverse literally cannot function unless the Sonics have a Robotnik to fight.

Zonic even has his own Robotnik, named Zobitnik naturally. He runs the multiverse prison for criminals thay zonic arrests. They don't get along naturally.

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#71639: Mar 10th 2023 at 4:06:23 PM

It's a weird loophole for a You Can't Fight Fate scenario, which is odd as the future timelines don't have a Robotnik bothering Sonic anymore, but instead have a different problem like King Shadow and Enerjak.

And this doesn't even factor Doctor Nega.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71640: Mar 10th 2023 at 4:25:55 PM

I believe that rule only applies to the Prime universe.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71641: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:29:51 PM

There surely must be the one, horrifying universe out there where Sonic and Eggman are best friends forever.

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#71642: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:30:09 PM

Me and my ass ignorant to ARCHIE lore: WTF...

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#71643: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:38:21 PM

[up][up] An Earth-3 kind of universe where Sonic is instead aligned with Eggman is certainly something

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Edited by slimcoder on Mar 10th 2023 at 5:38:31 AM

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#71644: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:46:24 PM

Hopefully there is a universe where Kintobor didn't turn into Robotnik with no Metallixes where he and Sonic stayed friends

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#71645: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:46:35 PM

There was an issue of Archie where Robotnik was overthrown or something and had to live together with the Freedom Fighters, and in particular crashed at Sonic's house. I forget the specifics.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71646: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:48:28 PM

[up][up] No, but Scourge's universe predictably has a Good Robotnik named Kintibor.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71647: Mar 10th 2023 at 5:59:05 PM

I guess the closest we're gonna get is the Boom! Continuity, where Sonic and Eggman are enemies but act like friends half the time.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#71648: Mar 10th 2023 at 6:02:19 PM

Found it. Issue 108. The original Ivo Robotnik returns from the dead and asks for help from the Freedom Fighters to help overthrow his successor. He ends up living with Sonic for about a week. Course, it was all a trap.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71649: Mar 10th 2023 at 7:36:45 PM

[up][up]And there was even an episode where he crashed on Sonic and Tails' couch.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 10th 2023 at 9:37:03 AM

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#71650: Mar 11th 2023 at 4:31:00 AM

[up]Boom Eggman is basically sitcom arch nemesis most of the time; often more interested in annoying Sonic than actively defeating him in many episodes.


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