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YellowTemperance まだ小さい声 from Peanutville Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#71326: Feb 20th 2023 at 10:28:52 PM

[up]x6 Sonic Team try not to introduce a character and them add them to the "funny cameo character pile" after a single game challenge

YellowTemperance まだ小さい声 from Peanutville Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#71327: Feb 20th 2023 at 10:30:04 PM

You know, those characters that show up, maybe say a couple lines, but never really do anything important.

Edited by YellowTemperance on Feb 20th 2023 at 10:31:24 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#71328: Feb 21st 2023 at 6:40:54 AM

So two things:

  • Thing 1: Since Rouge is probably going to need a new English VA because her most recent one might get the boot, it just hit me that Michelle Ruff might not be a bad pick if she uses her Fujiko Mine voice on Rouge. (Though it also hits me that having her as both Cream and Rouge would make for a weird case of whiplash, but whatever!)
  • Thing 2: Anybody remember those commercials about Sonic and Knuckles with the elves from the North Pole? The other day, I found out that apparently those commercials were directed by Zack Snyder. As in, that Zack Snyder. Pretty crazy how things work out, right?

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#71329: Feb 21st 2023 at 6:45:45 AM

I highly doubt Rouge's game VA is going anywhere.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71330: Feb 21st 2023 at 6:51:53 AM

Not that Rouge is doing much nowadays.

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#71331: Feb 21st 2023 at 7:09:28 AM

I was wondering: do you think that we will ever have another Sonic game that's like Sonic the Fighters? It would be nice to have a Sonic fighting game again in recent years.

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#71332: Feb 21st 2023 at 7:47:11 AM

Fighting games are more niche than during the 90's, so I highly doubt it.

Edited by Tomodachi on Feb 21st 2023 at 7:50:06 AM

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#71333: Feb 21st 2023 at 7:50:13 AM

You sure about that?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#71334: Feb 21st 2023 at 8:48:21 AM

I highly doubt Rouge's game VA is going anywhere.

I mean, Nintendo darrin'd her when Anna, a character from Fire Emblem previously voiced by her appears in Fire Emblem Engage with a completely different VA. And they haven't seem to explain why that switch happened.

But maybe you're right?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#71335: Feb 21st 2023 at 8:52:31 AM

She is still Anna in FEH.

Engage Anna is too young so voice change in ENG.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#71336: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:07:39 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if in that hypothetical, they kept Ruff on as Cream as well as Rouge, because O'Shaugnessy got to stay as Charmy despite being the new voice of Tails, and those voices sound indistinguishable.

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#71337: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:38:20 AM

So like, Virtua Sonic the Fighting Vipers?

Jokes aside, I'd want to try out a Sonic the Fighters follow-up with the modern cast (Sonic Battle notwithstanding), and the cast is pretty big already that there's plenty of choices. Hell, some of the new IDW original characters like Tangle, Surge, and Kit could provide great movesets in a fighting game context

Sonic Smackdown is likely the closest successor to that (It even has SMBZ Mecha Sonic for Chaos' sake).

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#71338: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:41:21 AM

"So like, Virtua Sonic the Fighting Vipers?"

How appropriate, we can bring back Honey the Cat that way!

Are explosions science?
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#71339: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:48:39 AM

That's the idea!

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#71340: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:48:42 AM

The showrunners and Voice actors have made it a sticking point that Prime takes place somewhere on the timeline.

So instead of Two Worlds we get Two Different Forms of Entertainment?

Because by god, there is so much empahsis on Green Hill, they sure keep ignoring the ruins that's submerged in lava nearby. Or the giant bridge nearby.

Sonic: Green Hill is my favorite place to be.

Me: You mean South Island, right? Because that's the name of the location. Right? Green Hill is still just an area on South Island right? Because Eggman taking over an alternate Green Hill, a small place on an island suddenly doesn't feel like a big deal after Forces.

Or why would Rouge stay in Green Hill? There was no indication that she lived their during the games.

The less said on Knuckles being there, the better lol

Or even Shadow lol lol

Also WHEN is Prime suppose to take place? It can't be after Frontiers, Prime!Sonic is still more childish. Can't be after Forces, because Green Hill is looking a lot less like Sand Hill. Can't even be before Forces as Shadow has his post Forces personality where he has a chip on his shoulders.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! lol

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71341: Feb 21st 2023 at 9:49:34 AM

He may be my least liked of the IDW characters, but I could absolutely see Clutch the Opossum hosting an illicit fighting tournament(s) for the Chaos Emeralds. He'd also give a new potentially recurring antagonist who presents a different type of challenge to Sonic and friends. And he'd make a good talking animal villain, and a villain without direct connection to Eggman, which is rare outside of the Zeti. Plus he'd bring back the idea of Eggman selling his badniks to various buyers to fund his operations, which I think was last mentioned in Sonic Battle.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#71342: Feb 21st 2023 at 12:19:52 PM

Or maybe the games can have a Champions type of story like in the Archie Comics just for the cast to fight each other.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71343: Feb 21st 2023 at 1:13:50 PM

IIRC, part of the reason Sonic the Fighters existed was because they already had the engine up and made from another game (Fighting Vipers, I think?) and it wasn't too much of a hassle to put Sonic characters into it.

The primary way I'd see Sega making a Sonic fighting game nowadays is if it were collaboration with another company. Like a Sega vs Capcom, or if they got Arcsys to make them a Sega fighting game or something.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71344: Feb 21st 2023 at 1:21:01 PM

If SEGA and Capcom cross over again, I'd like to see a Sonic and Mega Man platformer, honestly.

As far as SEGA fighting games goes, the last Virtua Fighter game to come out was VF 5, 17 years ago. But it did get a PS 4/5 remaster 2 years ago, that was free even, and is currently on sale with Tekken 7 related DLC for $10. The Eternal Champions franchise was killed off decades ago, not that it would be fitting here. Fighting Vipers had a sequel and I think that's it. I'm pretty sure the Mega Ten/Persona universe has some spinoff fighting games, and I think that's pretty much it.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 21st 2023 at 3:29:01 AM

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#71345: Feb 21st 2023 at 2:44:18 PM

Speaking of Sega and Capcom, I'd love to see a Sonic fighter in the style of Power Stone. The latter had a distinct and cool fighting style that's long overdue for a comeback and feels pretty adaptable for Sonic in the right hands.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71346: Feb 21st 2023 at 3:00:54 PM

I think Sonic Battle could've easily evolved into something like Power Stone if on a more powerful hardware. Power ups would've come from item boxes like the elemental shields back then, but nowadays, they could also include wisps.

I wonder, does anyone have any suggestions for different stages that could've been used for Generations?

  • Console
    • Classic Era: Master System through 32X games
    • Adventure Era: Saturn through 6th Gen (ending with Shadow the Hedgehog)
    • Boost Era: 7th Gen (06 through Colors)
  • Handheld
    • Classic Era: Game Gear games
    • Adventure Era: Advance games, Battle, Pinball Party
    • Boost Era: Rush games, Rivals games, Colors

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#71347: Feb 21st 2023 at 3:07:13 PM

Sonic 06 is part of the Adventure Era, to be fair. But yeah, I get what you mean by console split.

Hmmm... I don't remember the stages, or what games were represented, but we certainly could've had quite a few more games. Besides the non-platformers, anyway.

Shadow?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71348: Feb 21st 2023 at 3:33:33 PM

I think a lot about "if they made a new Sonic Generations, what would I want / what should be represented."

For one, I would want them to axe the "the sequence of levels is strictly chronological," because it meant that that Classic-era stages got remanded ot the easy stages. If we get Generations 2, stages should be shuffled around so you're getting some Modern stages early, some Classic stages later, etc. This, plus more bosses in general, to ensure Classic had more bosses outside of the first few levels, and/or to have Modern fight some Classic bosses and Classic fight some Modern bosses.

[up] He probably listed it that way because Generations listed it that way. Generations put 06 in the "Modern" era, mostly because they chose to limit themselves to just three "main line" stages per era, which meant they had one too many from the Adventure era and one too few from the Modern era.

They wouldn't have to do that now (since there's a lot more Modern era games now), but imo they should've had more stages represented per era anyway.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 21st 2023 at 3:36:14 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71349: Feb 21st 2023 at 3:43:10 PM

I put 06 where it was in part because of where it is in Generations, and in part because the console placement it was made the divide easier.

[up][up]You can easily tell which game goes where by glancing at it's wikipedia page, or based on what's around it.

[up]My question was regarding Generations as it was back then. A different Generations game now would of course be very different. Though that does make me wonder, if Cyberspace ported level maps over including their original themes, are there any levels that you all wish had made it that didn't?

In a bit, I'll edit my above post to say which stages I'd have put where.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 21st 2023 at 5:43:45 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71350: Feb 21st 2023 at 3:48:27 PM

A lot of the Cyberspace levels are based on areas from older games (IE, there's levels based on bits from Unleashed, bits from Lost World, bits from Adventure 1 and 2, etc), just reskinned with the assets they had access to, so I'd just want them to have those levels visually match.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 21st 2023 at 3:48:51 AM


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