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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71176: Feb 17th 2023 at 8:03:29 PM

[up][up][up]I'm just gonna roll my eyes at you accusing others of gatekeeping while doing the "no true fan" fallacy and deciding what opinions are or aren't valid, and be done with it.

[up][up]I too would like more out of Honey the Cat.

[up]Exactly.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 17th 2023 at 10:05:17 AM

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#71177: Feb 17th 2023 at 8:09:21 PM

Perhaps the Amy, Knuckles, and Tails DLC's could be used as a way to reintroduce some of these characters who haven't been used in awhile. I could see Cream showing up in Amy's, or Rouge in Knuckles'. Hypothetically, anyway.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71178: Feb 17th 2023 at 8:14:28 PM

I feel the DLC might be playable Amy, Tails and Knuckles in the game as it is now, and the story would be about Sage who may or may not be playable. I'd really like for each of them to get their own story though.

I'm interested in what abilities the other characters would have, and most curious about how Amy might play.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 17th 2023 at 10:19:32 AM

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#71179: Feb 17th 2023 at 8:34:30 PM

Now we need to implement their abilities into the new gameplay mechanics. One of the problems of the Classic, Advance and Adventure games is that those characters break the game.

"Mai waifu."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71180: Feb 17th 2023 at 8:40:46 PM

As far as the open zone platforming goes, it's mostly Tails' flight that would make it trivial. But then again, the open zone platforming actually isn't a huge part of the game, since anything you can obtain by it can be obtained easily by fishing or grilling.

...it's weird to think, but platforming isn't a particularly huge part of this game. It's more about story, then about combat, then about freedom.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 17th 2023 at 10:42:01 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#71181: Feb 17th 2023 at 9:11:54 PM

[up][up]Those things aren't a problem...

Neither of their abilities can actually skip difficult sections of any level.

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Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
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#71182: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:19:02 PM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71183: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:33:54 PM

I pointed out exactly what you were doing that was hypocritical. I don't know why you're assuming other people must be disingenuous, assuming your stance is the only valid one, or why you continue to keep trying to assign negative states of mind to other people, but I said I was done. Please stop making things personal, and move on.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 17th 2023 at 12:35:15 PM

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
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#71184: Feb 18th 2023 at 12:13:01 AM

Anyway

Sonic team has at least two tried and true formulas that places emphasis on using the extended cast in the form of SA 2 and Heroes. They're more than optimal jumpoff points for crafting a Sonic game going beyond the "core" cast. We all know writing in extra characters isn't a hassle.

There's honestly no excuse.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#71185: Feb 18th 2023 at 3:49:09 AM

No attachment whatsoever to the 90's comics and cartoons. First impression on them was, as somebody who played Mega Drive games at a young age, was playing the Advance games when a mate who had those let him, and had gotten Heroes when he first went into the internet, first impression on those were people being aggressively defensive of them, acting with disgust at the notion of "Earth", and, pretty much, being stuck on tie-ins that, well, didn't resemble neither the old videogames nor the current ones at the time. So, no love lost.

Anyway, Frontiers has something that you guys seem to be forgetting:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/456311/sega-sonic-frontiers-sales-greatly-exceeded-expectations-sequel-to-have-bigger-budget/

2.9 million sales as of December 2022. It had already outsold EVERYTHING but the original trilogy, the Adventures, and Generations, and was on par with Unleashed's lifetime sales. In 2 months, it sold TWENTY FIVE TIMES the ammount of Forces' lifetime sales.

So yeah, no need to wax lyrical about "it is getting a 7 out of 10" or that kind of self-defeating stuff. Game was a massive success.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#71186: Feb 18th 2023 at 4:04:55 AM

That's we've been trying to say.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#71187: Feb 18th 2023 at 4:07:38 AM

Then I misunderstood the conversation at some point through the heat. My bad.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#71188: Feb 18th 2023 at 4:08:41 AM

It was mainly about the 7 out of 10 argument Black Yakuzu brought up.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71189: Feb 18th 2023 at 4:57:17 AM

[up][up]basically, I'd mentioned those same numbers a couple of pages ago, and we collectively had discussed the "Sonic tax" on review scores seemingly being worse than what the actual perception of the game is (I also mentioned the IGN score not even agreeing with itself). Then we wrapped that up and talked about... other stuff.

So, umm... anyone else reading the IDW comics? I'm enjoying them. I got into them from Game Apologist's Sonic Speed Reading series, but I did actually buy the first two volumes for myself. The next volume will be released in a month or two. I wish the volumes weren't so far behind the issues they cover, but it is what it is.

Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#71190: Feb 18th 2023 at 5:30:01 AM

Good: The art is pretty consistently good, it has some fun moments, and it doesn't require too much prior experience with the series.

Bad: Sonic is a naive holier-than-thou idiot but never gets any direct comeuppance because of plot armor, several of the new characters are either expies or originally conceptualized for Archie, and the world is more boring than the state of Ohio.

Why didn't they just continue with the post-reboot Archie characters and storyline? There's a lot more material to work with, and they own it all.

Edited by Negacube on Feb 18th 2023 at 8:30:24 AM

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#71191: Feb 18th 2023 at 6:03:31 AM

I guess some sorta rights issues or not wanting to deal with Ken Penders again

Are explosions science?
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#71192: Feb 18th 2023 at 6:25:50 AM

I'm really enjoying the IDW series so far, although I'm still on the Metal Virus arc, because the collections I got are not really up to date with the current story arcs, so I'm a bit far behind with the stories.

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#71193: Feb 18th 2023 at 6:29:17 AM

[up][up]That, and creating a new jumping on point for new readers, as well as being able to sell it as being close to what game fans are already familiar with.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Feb 18th 2023 at 9:31:12 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#71194: Feb 18th 2023 at 7:10:28 AM

Yeah, IDW was basically a sequel to Forces. I'm waiting to see how Frontiers is tied-in with ttbt.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#71195: Feb 18th 2023 at 7:50:30 AM

I'm honestly expecting a time skip, and the implication is Frontiers happened during that period.

After Unleashed's adaptation took forever to finish, I don't want any more straight adaptations in the book itself.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#71196: Feb 18th 2023 at 8:33:40 AM

[up]x6

I suspect the lack of Archie elements has likely lays more in Sega/Sonic Team in Japan never being terribly enthused about them, and the Penders lawsuit and departure from Archie giving them an excuse to get the fresh start with core character focus with they had likely wanted for a long time.

Edited by BorneAgain on Feb 18th 2023 at 11:34:45 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71197: Feb 18th 2023 at 8:39:42 AM

[up]

I mean, I think I heard that Sega were the ones to veto Sally being killed off.

If I'm wrong, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's a strange decision to make if they were looking for excuses to get rid of the Freedom Fighters.

Hell, they could have let the comic end a long time ago and reboot things around the time of the original Adventure, but they didn't.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#71198: Feb 18th 2023 at 8:40:41 AM

It was for a toy or something regarding why they were against Sally being killed.

Once that fell through, Sega hasn't really cared for her.

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#71199: Feb 18th 2023 at 8:49:09 AM

@Borne Again: Yeah, I can see that. The Archie cast got unbelievably bloated as time went by and while it makes for a fleshed out universe, when it's for a franchise named after somebody and a lot of the stories start being about everyone but that somebody, well, Sega would have to draw a line.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71200: Feb 18th 2023 at 8:50:06 AM

Then they shouldn't have let the Archie series continue as it was for so long.

Like really, when the Adventure series started and the Japanese continuity started having more influence on things, they should have ended the Freedom Fighter era and gotten a fresh start then, instead of making all their mandates to change those versions of the characters to match their game counterparts.

<Shakes head in memory of poor Charmy>

But instead, they failed to keep their house in order, as it often the case with everything they do.

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