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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#71051: Feb 14th 2023 at 1:57:19 PM

No sane person would want to draw the Time Eater.

That just looks like a nightmare.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#71052: Feb 14th 2023 at 1:57:47 PM

[up][up]Well....Frontiers kind of puts a damper on that Chaos is an Alien apparently

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Feb 14th 2023 at 4:58:31 AM

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ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#71053: Feb 14th 2023 at 4:55:07 PM

Have a remix of the Special Stage music from Sonic 2.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#71054: Feb 14th 2023 at 9:48:26 PM

[up][up] According to Ian Flynn he's still a mutated Chao, the Ancients are so far back in the past it's like our distant ancestors.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 14th 2023 at 12:48:39 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71055: Feb 15th 2023 at 3:13:14 AM

I do really like the general character designs of this series so I always enjoy it when they introduce new characters.

Its the difference between say Dark Gaia and the Babylon Rogues. The former is just a big boring generic monster, the latter at least have fun bird designs, a green hawk, street-girl swallow, and a big-ass albatross with black eyes.

Even the Deadly Six and Infinite, I can appreciate their general concept and overall look even if the actual execution of their characters isn't that good.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#71056: Feb 15th 2023 at 3:20:19 AM

The Deadly Six have fine designs, they're weird demons, with a lot of personality. I think their good designs are really underserved by the bad writing and underwhelming abilities, though.

I maintain that a better way to handle the Deadly Six would be for them to be actual demons and for their gimmick to be demon magic that can compete with Sonic on a physical level, instead of having them rely on weird mechanical proxies. The only weird proxy I would keep is Zavok's dragon, which fits him because he's the leader of the team. And I would change his second phase from him just growing giant to him fusing with his dragon.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#71057: Feb 15th 2023 at 5:02:13 AM

[up][up] Said Monsters do work as a contrast though.

Its the Kirby effect.

They just kept doing it and played it out.

[up] That's what they were conceptualized as actually. Specifically they're based on Oni.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Feb 15th 2023 at 8:04:56 AM

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#71058: Feb 15th 2023 at 6:08:09 AM

I'd argue that Mephiles was pretty unrelated from Eggman. The Sonic/Eggman/Elise stuff and the Mephiles stuff only barely connect in that one alternate timeline.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71059: Feb 15th 2023 at 6:10:43 AM

Yea but that puts him in the category of usurping Eggman since the latter is still part of the game.

When I say unaffiliated, I mean no connection whatsoever, not even usurping. It's someone who is the villain from start to finish without interacting with Eggman at all.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#71060: Feb 15th 2023 at 6:11:38 AM

I consider Mephiles and Eggman to be competing Big Bads.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#71061: Feb 15th 2023 at 9:39:23 AM

Without interacting at all? I think the closest you get is Black Doom. He definitely does interact with Eggman of course, but its entirely antagonistic between the two from the start. Also, Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't even really pretend that Eggman is the Big Bad of the game, so I wouldn't say Black Doon usurps the plot either.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#71062: Feb 15th 2023 at 9:40:22 AM

Sure they aren't interacting, but Eggman and Mephiles are pursuing mutually opposing goals.

Plus Eggman does seek control over Iblis which would be very bad for Mephiles.

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#71063: Feb 16th 2023 at 11:47:11 AM

Double posting, my apologies. I'll delete if appropriate, but there's an official real-life version of Amy's Tarot Card deck that we saw in the IDW Comics' Trial By Fire arc and the Sonic Origins cutscenes.

78 cards with original artwork and even a guidebook. It'll release later this October.

Edited by taotruths on Feb 16th 2023 at 11:47:27 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71064: Feb 16th 2023 at 3:45:28 PM

I'll try joining this thread again.

So Frontiers has made certain characters canon to the main series. Have Ian or Evan or anyone said if anything beyond those characters are also canon? Certain events in IDW, for example?

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#71065: Feb 16th 2023 at 5:13:30 PM

[up]Nah, no word on that front. Unless you count “*knowing grin*”.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71066: Feb 16th 2023 at 5:34:58 PM

I'm inclined to believe the comics aren't fully canon, because of the "Am I a burden to you?" scene in Frontiers. Comic!Tails already had his discussion to excuse his Out-of-Character Moment in Forces.

To be honest, I'm not as negative on Forces as most people seem to be. The "fanbase" tends to have a major Accentuate the Negative issue. And there were issues in Forces. The levels were far too short, and Tails' characterization, being the major two. But I wouldn't say it was terrible.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71067: Feb 16th 2023 at 5:53:35 PM

It's a little cynical to say so, but I think we should hold off on whether Flynn's been allowed to canonize anything until Sonic Team allows him to do more than just vaguely namedrop these characters in throwaway bits of missable dialogue.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 16th 2023 at 5:54:00 AM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#71068: Feb 16th 2023 at 6:13:53 PM

Sticks, at least, is in unmissable dialogue. Hopefully that means she'll come to the comics, actually.

How many of those missable quotes did the rest of you get? In my entire playthrough, I think I only got 3 or 4 optional ones:

  • The one on the first island about having Rouge steal the Emeralds
  • One about the waterfall that I'm pretty sure is mandatory
  • The one in Cyberspace about Jet and Babylon (this might be mandatory)
  • The one on the last island about how Eggman's a mess
  • One I missed because I'd muted my computer while I was grinding up the ring and speed levels (they really need to fix how that's done...)
  • And maybe one more I forgot

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 16th 2023 at 8:14:21 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71069: Feb 16th 2023 at 6:24:14 PM

Sega has final word on anything, and Flynn just kind of goes along with it. He mostly just pitches ideas to Sega and they either agree or deny it.

So if Sega decided Tangle or Sticks aren't canon tomorrow then that's that.

Plus I highly doubt Sega will ever actually use them despite being namedropped.

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Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#71070: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:23:50 AM

Kishimoto responds to the idea of bringing many older characters into newer games, including the Freedom Fighters, with positive interest.

Unsurprisingly, all hell breaks loose. Reading the replies has been nearly cancer inducing.

https://twitter.com/moq_46/status/1624216766015750144

https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-comic-characters-in-games-freedom-fighters/

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#71071: Feb 17th 2023 at 4:14:32 AM

Why is there a need to show the negative responses?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#71072: Feb 17th 2023 at 4:17:22 AM

Sonic Fans just can't be happy.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#71073: Feb 17th 2023 at 4:19:26 AM

Fact of life.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71074: Feb 17th 2023 at 4:19:46 AM

I am reminded there was a lot of instant hate over stuff like Sonic Unleashed and when he got blue arms for Boom

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 17th 2023 at 4:19:59 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#71075: Feb 17th 2023 at 4:22:16 AM

Didn't someone mace another person over that bit about the blue arms?

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