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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70976: Feb 9th 2023 at 3:06:26 AM

Well it also helps to make a well made game

Shadow the Hedgehog's edge was worsened because technical wise its not that good of a game.

And 2006 was a fucking disaster. Regardless of the actual quality of the story, no story can be told on a game that as an absolute mess on every level of development.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70977: Feb 9th 2023 at 3:32:15 AM

I feel like a lot the questionable narrative decisions in the series would have went over a lot better if the games they came from were better.

Hard to justify a story like 06 when its a technical disaster. No amount of Shadow being badass can fix that steaming pile.

The "meta era" might have never happened otherwise.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#70978: Feb 9th 2023 at 4:12:21 AM

Of course, the baby was thrown out with the bathwater.

Honestly, they could have done what they did with Unleashed, and have Dimps develop a Wii version of 06, rather than splitting the team to develop Secret Rings while Naka primadonna'd around

Edited by Eriorguez on Feb 9th 2023 at 1:12:36 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70979: Feb 9th 2023 at 4:29:03 AM

There are a million things Sega could have done to not have ended up in the situation they were in.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#70980: Feb 9th 2023 at 6:30:21 AM

RE: Lanolin mod for Sonic Frontiers:

Whoa. surprised

I'll bet Lanolin's maker, Jennifer Hernandez, is spit-taking over this. Geez, we're getting tons of character mods for Frontiers. Like, there's even a mod to have Sonic the Sketchog of all people! What's next, mods to have Espio and Surge?

It's one of the great mysteries of gaming on why the Sonic fanbase in particular are so dedicated.

I would chalk it up to Sonic being in the right place at the right time in terms of marketing and overall attitude and it turned out so well that he just left a permanent impression on kids from the 90s and some of those kids grew up and were so throughly impacted by him, they wanted to work on video game art and modding as adults, they saw characters like Lanolin and thought "hey, these Sonic designs are still popping even after more than 30 years, I think I'll challenge myself and create a model for this officially-sanctioned Sonic OC of a sheep because she looks popping!"

Could be an anthro setting thing

I guess the answer is the furries.

Or. Yeah, it could also be a furry thing.

(*realizes that his two cents could be interpreted as the reverse of a TL;DR post*)

Yeah, it all goes back to furries. tongue

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 9th 2023 at 9:30:57 AM

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#70981: Feb 9th 2023 at 7:33:39 AM

"What's next, mods to have Espio and Surge?"

About that actually - Espio and Surge Frontiers.

Edited by taotruths on Feb 9th 2023 at 7:33:50 AM

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#70982: Feb 9th 2023 at 12:23:04 PM

[up][up]Well don't get too excited, Lanolin's only a model swap, albeit one with some work done on her. We aren't at the "mod in unique abilities into Frontiers" like Generations or Sonic 3 AIR yet.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70984: Feb 9th 2023 at 7:15:56 PM

In the same series, he came to acknowledge her -in his way, anyway. I think Flynn recently even said "Rouge is not a heroic individual, that hasn't changed", and I'm surprised someone even asked that.

A subtle detail and difference from the main counterpart of Shadow and his X self: him calling Rouge by her name. He doesn't do so in X compared with the games, but he does appreciate her when she followed him around the desolated planets.

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feartear Since: Sep, 2011
#70985: Feb 10th 2023 at 12:38:19 AM
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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#70986: Feb 10th 2023 at 12:53:10 AM

Don't do that...

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feartear Since: Sep, 2011
#70987: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:49:55 AM
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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#70988: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:55:25 AM

Aha, instead the proper thing is to import decade old grudges?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70989: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:28:38 AM

Literally NOBODY asked for this to seen here and I'm really not interested in it either.

You bring up an argument that nobody was even talking about and then use that as a launching point to debate some argument on another site.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70990: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:34:45 AM

Ya know the funny thing about Shadow the Hedgehog, I honestly would like another Shadow game.

Just make it better. Like I know thats a very vague term but still just make a game that functions right and plays great.

Plus give Shadow a story that isn't just another origin tale again. He's technically an agent of Gun, just send him on a mission into country or world that ends with him battling a God. tongue

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#70991: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:38:06 AM

Back when I finished 06, I thought we would get a James Bond esque adventure but starring Shadow.

I was a kid back then, don't judge.

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#70992: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:38:08 AM

The game was fun, but so damn buggy. With better playtesting and no longer having to work with his origins(meaning it should be easier to write a story), it can be pretty sweet potentially. Already has everything overall needed among various past games to work into.

Though I wouldn't mind a remaster with touched-up graphics and just gameplay tweaks so things run more smoothly in general. There's kind of no way around any kind of "defeat this number of enemies" mission will be a bit of a pain, though.

Shadow?
MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#70993: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:24:51 AM

So apparently something called "Sonic Origins Plus" has been rated in Korea.

I'm waiting for official confirmation myself but I also gotta ask what they could even add to it.

Are explosions science?
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#70994: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:37:15 AM

I mean, the way Project 06 refined Shadow's gameplay would work quite well for a full game NGL. Snowballing in power so you can decimate strong enemies gets engaging.

I mean, the Super Sonic bosses in Frontiers are combat heavy and damn if they aren't engaging.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70995: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:40:56 AM

Plus the more open world format does lend well to driving vehicles if thats still included.

Hey maybe have Shadow pilot a helicopter or jet. tongue

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Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#70996: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:22:04 AM

Shadow's better suited for Titanfall-style parkour action imo. I'd rather have Rouge as the slow, methodical James Bond style. Maybe a prequel explaining how she got to work with the President?

Edited by Negacube on Feb 10th 2023 at 9:23:04 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70997: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:22:49 AM

Need someone who can properly make a combat orientated game to make a proper Shadow game and use all of his powers.

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Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#70998: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:25:16 AM

PlatinumGames, perhaps? That's kind of their thing.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#70999: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:50:06 AM

So apparently something called "Sonic Origins Plus" has been rated in Korea.

I'm waiting for official confirmation myself but I also gotta ask what they could even add to it.

I just found out about this! God bless Korea for accidentally giving us these tidbits for us to munch on! grin

As for stuff they could even add, I think I've seen enough about it to make a laundry list of sorts:

  • Playable Amy (and Metal Sonic?) in all the Origins games
    • Knuckles in Sonic CD?
  • More games(?) (I forget if people wanted Sonic Spinball and Knuckles' Chaotix or not)
  • Polished physics so that goodies you could find in the OG Genesis games, but not the Origins versions, can actually be obtained in the Origins versions.
  • Proper soundtrack for 3 and Knuckles (not sure if this is legally feasible yet, but I know folks were saying 3&K's soundtrack in Origins sucked.)
  • Being able to play the remastered Origins games with the OG Lives system but without the tokens.
  • No microtransactions
  • Rewind feature (there was evidence that the OG Origins was going to have rewind like other retro collections have, but it got dummied out.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 10th 2023 at 9:54:20 AM

MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#71000: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:53:16 AM

I would say all of that plus the needed fixes. Maybe also change super sonic's theme in S3 to the unused one or give us the option to. What kind of fucking insult was it to relegate that unused theme to a results screen of a minigame you might play once just to see what its like?

also I feel the tracks they used for this Sonic 3 weren't bad, just not as good as they coulda been. The Carnival Night themes in the prototype were honestly perfect. I'd take those over the final version AND the original clown wank thing.

Also the main menu thing has the Veg-O-Fortress from Spinball and Flickie's Island so I can see those games getting in...somehow. And yeah I don't get why Sega are so anal about never re-releasing Knuckles chaotix, it's about effing time.

I aslo wanna know what that city in the ending cutscene is. Its too drab to be Spring Yard or Studiopolis. Maybe its Station Square?

Edited by MightyKombat on Feb 10th 2023 at 2:54:26 PM

Are explosions science?

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