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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70901: Jan 27th 2023 at 3:44:49 PM

All Hail Shadow the Hedgehog

Damn that game had a killer soundtrack

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#70902: Jan 27th 2023 at 3:47:28 PM

Don't forget Chosen One too.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70903: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:07:45 PM

He is a true Chosen One

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#70904: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:15:31 PM

Shadow had so many good songs made or picked out for it that they couldn't fit them all in the game.

For example:

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#70905: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:50:15 PM

Ita pure distilled 2000's edge and I love it.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#70906: Jan 27th 2023 at 6:33:33 PM

This one is my personal favourite:

I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable person
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#70908: Jan 28th 2023 at 10:53:32 AM

I'm of the opinion that Frontiers managed its more serious narrative with better consistency than many titles of the Adventure era, so I'm optimistic that the expanded playable characters in 3D will be better realized this time around.

Edited by BorneAgain on Jan 28th 2023 at 1:58:33 PM

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#70909: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:00:14 AM

Probably a dumb question, but how are these "generations" measured?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70910: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:01:20 AM

Isn't Frontiers going to be getting DLC that adds more playable characters?

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 28th 2023 at 11:01:27 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#70911: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:10:21 AM

Inject it into my veins, Kishimoto.

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#70912: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:33:09 AM

[up][up][up]IDK what it’s about either. I think this is the first time they used the word in public communications of any form.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#70913: Jan 28th 2023 at 2:24:04 PM

Google brought up a Japanese interview that explained it (don't know if it was ever translated into English). Kishimoto considers the classic 2D era to be the "first generation" of Sonic games, then all of 3D Sonic from Adventure to now is the "second generation", and now Frontier is the start of the "third generation" of the Sonic games.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70914: Jan 28th 2023 at 2:31:09 PM

Interesting. So he considers both the Adventure Era and the Boost Era part of the same generation then?

Funny considering people have separated classic adventure and boost into their own little generations already.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#70915: Jan 28th 2023 at 2:35:21 PM

Well as much as the early 2000s and Boost games play differently from one another, they're still all played within linear levels, so I would guess he considers Frontiers' pseudo-open world approach to be a bigger departure for the series.

(Also, there's always the awkwardness with Lost World being in the middle of the "boost era" while doing it's own thing without any boost mechanic.)

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Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#70916: Jan 28th 2023 at 2:57:54 PM

Lost World is just the 3D blast of its time.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#70917: Jan 29th 2023 at 4:20:07 AM

The series always feels the need to do some odd experiment during its more consistent eras; 3D Blast during the classics, Heroes in the Adventure, and Lost World in Modern.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#70918: Jan 29th 2023 at 4:21:20 AM

It feels like the Sonic Franchise is returning to it's 2000s edge.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#70919: Jan 29th 2023 at 6:00:04 AM

The work put into this is something to behold, especially Metal Harbor.

Edited by VeryMelon on Jan 29th 2023 at 9:00:31 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#70920: Jan 29th 2023 at 3:56:25 PM

This is kinda a random question, but is there a reason why the levels in Sonic Heroes are as long as they are?

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#70921: Jan 29th 2023 at 4:04:20 PM

I don't think there's any particular reason for it, but the levels are probably missing an extra couple steps of polish and editing down because Heroes was rushed out by Sega. There were two level designers and one of them had to take a break because of illness, leaving just Iizuka who almost died finishing the levels by himself in time for release, he lost 22 pounds from overworking and lack of sleep.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#70922: Jan 29th 2023 at 4:16:20 PM

Mystic Mansion may go on and on, but damn if it isn't an interesting and complex level.

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#70923: Jan 29th 2023 at 4:54:05 PM

Got to compensate having three different characters each level, I guess.

Personally, despite the complications during development, stages like Final Fortress and Mystic Mansion are some of the visually most interesting ones we've seen in the franchise. They're fascinating.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#70924: Jan 29th 2023 at 8:00:04 PM

Returning to the Act 1 and 2 structure certainly helped.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#70925: Jan 30th 2023 at 4:52:13 AM

Sure, Heroes might have had the worst casino levels in the franchise, but the ghost mansion levels were freaking cool, and almost every level was very unique and interesting.


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