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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#69576: Dec 1st 2022 at 4:04:10 PM

...

And I agreed with you, I'm very impatient.

Edited by randomness4 on Dec 1st 2022 at 7:04:34 AM

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#69577: Dec 1st 2022 at 4:06:38 PM

Oh, sorry.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#69578: Dec 1st 2022 at 4:57:37 PM

Now that I'm home, I can clarify better; Amy wasn't really designed to be a carbon copy in the first place. She has some speed, but is always generally slower(in the case there's any actual differences beyond some unique skills, which is almost all the time. Sonic Heroes is one of the few games she's allowed to keep up with the others, due to the copied gameplay).

The way she plays even in Sonic Adventure had her wildly different. She rarely is even seen curling into a ball or using any similar skill than the others have. But that's, again, cause she's not designed to be like that. Though I do find it weird they didn't bother even in Sonic Advance, but who knows why.

Not that she can't be a carbon copy either(as Sonic Heroes shows), but she's also one of the few major characters who didn't start as a playable clone variant in some way. I'd prefer her to stay that way.

Anyway, we'll see how they handle it all. If the game doesn't work well if Amy isn't a carbon copy, then yeah, she should be. But if they can make it work, being unique is, imo, better.

Shadow?
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#69579: Dec 1st 2022 at 6:48:35 PM

The End had a drastic gameplay style because the time constraint of the development and said they didn't have much time to make the latter part of the game because of too many trials and errors in the early stage. He also added that they tried to make the best true final boss even within the restriction.

That means we will have a proper final boss next year? I'm geniunely intrigued.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#69580: Dec 1st 2022 at 6:56:04 PM

You know what, if we get a proper final boss in this update next year, I will forgive what they did in the current game.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#69581: Dec 1st 2022 at 7:01:52 PM

Redemption?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#69582: Dec 1st 2022 at 7:22:49 PM

Do Sonic fans just really hate bullet hell sections in platformers?

Because that's understandable.

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ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#69583: Dec 1st 2022 at 7:25:01 PM

Hell, I'm scared To try Touhou because of Bullet Hell. I also get fucked up a lot by Bullet Hell in Nier Automata. Also, Xigbar's bullet hell will get me a few times in the Kingdom Hearts series.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#69584: Dec 1st 2022 at 8:01:16 PM

I like Bullet Hells just fine...just not when its shoehorned into a platformer.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69585: Dec 1st 2022 at 8:14:37 PM

That's interesting about its true form. If it was something nonsolid, like the mist, how could there be anything to even attack?

EDIT: LOL at what Sonic probably saw and what Sage saw.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 1st 2022 at 11:23:21 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#69586: Dec 1st 2022 at 9:28:55 PM

>Frontiers is beating both Elden Ring and God of War in fan votes in the TGA awards.

This would be one of the funniest Dark horse victories in years. I need for this to happen.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#69587: Dec 1st 2022 at 9:36:39 PM

I just finished the game this past weekend. I actually rather liked the Ikaruga segments. It was a fun change of pace. The last one formed a pretty neat narrative, too.

EDIT: For reference, I have played Touhou games a bit. Even beat a few on the normal difficulty. So I'm no stranger to bullet hell games. Though not having keyboard control is a heck of a handicap. Took me three tries to beat The End.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Dec 1st 2022 at 1:01:35 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#69588: Dec 2nd 2022 at 5:57:38 AM

Frontiers winning that category would basically be like that time Justice League won the fan favorite moment category at the Oscars. It's crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes it.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69589: Dec 2nd 2022 at 7:03:20 AM

Now I'm wondering what Sonic sees when he fails the final QTE. To us, it looks like he just faceplants into the moon.

EDIT: Who would've thought The End would be foreshadowed in an Olympic Games story? XD (In all seriousness that battery-going-bad plot gets dark at the end.)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 2nd 2022 at 2:18:31 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#69590: Dec 2nd 2022 at 2:40:22 PM

>6:40

"I feel like I've read this specific scenario before..."

>7:24

Ahh...right.

Video Context: IDW Sonic spoilers.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 2nd 2022 at 5:46:12 AM

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#69591: Dec 2nd 2022 at 4:47:27 PM

In context, Red is talking of when two heroes fight one another because of stubbornness rather than talking things out. Which fits Shadow I guess, because how else we would see a Sonic vs Shadow fight?

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69592: Dec 3rd 2022 at 3:45:47 PM

In the Japanese script for Frontiers, Eggman escaped Cyberspace on his own somehow.

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#69593: Dec 3rd 2022 at 3:51:25 PM

The Japanese version seems to be stuck on the weirdo comedy schtick huh? We got Eggman just still ordering Sage around and now him escaping Cyberspace via...because.

Are explosions science?
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#69594: Dec 3rd 2022 at 4:23:12 PM

He also escaped the void from Sonic Generations somehow. It' just Joker Immunity

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#69595: Dec 3rd 2022 at 4:33:24 PM

Overall, I think the Japanese script's real objection was that Eggman was sympathetic, and they don't seem to have liked the relationship Flynn was going for between him and Sage.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 3rd 2022 at 4:35:14 AM

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#69596: Dec 3rd 2022 at 4:53:06 PM

I finally found a video of the Japanese dub with translated subtitles. It's only for the cutscenes though, so unfortunately it doesn't include The End's monologue. Nevertheless, for anyone who's interested:

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#69597: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:02:41 PM

I can't imagine that monologue had any changes that would've had anything of note.

Gameplay dialogue is getting a separate video anyway.

Edited by randomness4 on Dec 3rd 2022 at 8:05:50 AM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69598: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:51:12 PM

Interesting difference about the final boss in the Japanese script. The End is described as "another moon appearing from the dark side of the moon" and Sage decides to use the Titan to seal it away like in the last wars, with nothing about it being too strong for Super Sonic—in fact, she says he's the only hope.

From those changes, it feels like we'll see The End again down the line.

Also OW at Sage's last words: "Father...will you praise me?"

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#69599: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:54:44 PM

Another moon? Wait, is that their attempt to explain the "whole moon" thing that everyone's had a problem with since SA 2?

Are explosions science?
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69600: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:57:24 PM

[up] No, it's just what The End's true form looks like to us, the players, according to Kishimoto. We see the regular moon, but the damage done to it is on the other side.

EDIT: Come to think of it, the Japanese cutscenes describe The End as "another moon appearing from the dark side of the moon" according to Sage, which doesn't fit what Kishimoto revealed about The End looking different to everyone that sees it and the moon being what WE see while Sonic and Sage see something different.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 3rd 2022 at 9:06:02 AM

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