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SonicMario Since: Jan, 2010
#69501: Nov 28th 2022 at 10:53:53 AM

@Sage/Post-Credits scene discussion:

I half wonder if the Sage that Eggman boots up in the post-credits scene will even have the memory of Frontiers Sage. It's very possible that the Sage that Eggman communicates with briefly is a backup save that has no memory of what happened in Frontiers.

Almost sort of like what the Team Dark ending in Sonic Heroes seemed to imply about the playable Shadow before an obscure voice line in the Shadow the Hedgehog game (That only happens if you spend a long amount of time on the final boss fight) retconned that.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#69502: Nov 28th 2022 at 1:27:18 PM

SEGA should do a collaboration with Muse Dash. The Cyberspace levels music would fit right in with that game.

Edited by diddyknux on Nov 28th 2022 at 3:27:28 AM

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#69503: Nov 28th 2022 at 2:33:49 PM

they already have their own rhythm games!note 

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Nov 28th 2022 at 2:34:14 AM

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#69504: Nov 28th 2022 at 2:47:42 PM

Hey, we all want new entries in Space Channel 5, I was just sayin'.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#69505: Nov 28th 2022 at 4:29:16 PM

So, I found this article that discusses about Is Sonic Better suited for Movies and TV? What do you guys think about this article?

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#69506: Nov 28th 2022 at 5:38:13 PM

Its a weirdly inaccurate article given that Sonic Boom only got two seasons and Sonic Generations was generally successful on the consoles it launched on, just to name a couple of odd errors.

I will say the series has a some factors that lends it more to adaptations than games, at least now. Given the rising cost of game development and the death of the (non mobile) portable market, the chance to really explore the setting/characters with spin-offs has dried up a lot. Stuff like comics, movies, and TV shoes allows the lore to be genuinely dived into and the extended cast to get spotlighted without feeling shoehorned in.

Furthermore with Sonic himself, there's a tendency for (some) game canon to portray him as such an independent free spirit (practically a force of nature) that the real development and/or motivations tend to come with other characters, often in reaction to him. Tails wanting to become more than just his sidekick, Amy's love for him inspiring her in certain ways; etc.

While this is beloved by a portion of the fanbase, its a tricky depiction to actually put at the center of an ongoing narrative, especially a non game one. Its why many of them, particular the live action movies, don't really do that, either emphasizing other elements of his core personality or intentionally making him younger so there's actually somewhere to go with him long term.

In that sense its why there is an attraction to taking Sonic stories outside the gaming environment where they can actually do character arcs with him without much fuss given that fans are expecting a contrasting depiction anyway.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#69507: Nov 28th 2022 at 6:17:09 PM

Oh my god

Super Sonic vs Giganto

It was so over the top shonen anime boss battle I loved it. I was not expecting that.

Anyway, the new island sucks and I'm starting to dislike the design. Cute that Knuckles gets the desert stage. But after spending so much time with Kronos Island I'm weirdly not looking forward to this one... maybe its just fatigue. I like the individual parts - the Koco, the sky loops, the random Egg bunker, and the enemy types. I think its just the process of exploring it all over again I'm dreading.

Plus all my stuff got reset. Sigh. At least it was acknowledged in a cutscene.

Also A GRAVE MYSTERY can get mauled by a bear.

Edited by FOFD on Nov 28th 2022 at 9:18:40 AM

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#69508: Nov 28th 2022 at 6:20:43 PM

The second island is kind of split into two halves, and I think the second half is better designed then the first. There's just more interesting landscapes and structures there.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#69509: Nov 28th 2022 at 6:28:42 PM

Island 2 is split into two sections. Jesus.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#69510: Nov 28th 2022 at 7:39:56 PM

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I read the article and other than a few inaccuracies regarding the games (stating that Sonic Generations was not well received, despite the fact that it was indeed well received), I can see how the movies, TV shows and the comics saved Sonic's reputation over the years. The games were struggling for the past few years (before Sonic Frontiers came along) and it seemed like the franchise was struggling to stay afloat because the games were poorly handled. However, when the first Sonic movie came out, everything got better for the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise in terms of its reputation being restored somewhat. However, I don't think that Sonic should just be relegated to the movies and TV shows. At its core, Sonic the Hedgehog is a video game franchise and it wouldn't make any sense to not do any Sonic games for the next few years just because the franchise is doing better in other medias.

Edited by Rabbitearsblog on Nov 28th 2022 at 7:40:18 AM

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#69511: Nov 28th 2022 at 8:53:02 PM

I don't think Sonic is inherently more suited to other media, rather that Sonic's style of game is inherently more suited to shorter, replayable games, which is most definitely not what the AAA market is built for, so Sonic Team has to constantly find ways to stretch itself out, and have found success in none of them.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#69512: Nov 28th 2022 at 9:46:42 PM

I think the problem with Sonic Team is that they keep on changing Sonic's gameplay style each time and that only causes the gameplay to become constantly inconsistent. If they just pick one gameplay style to stick with and just keep on improving on it instead of constantly changing it, then the games would be in a much better place.

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#69513: Nov 28th 2022 at 10:53:59 PM

tbf apart from Heroes the only time they changed the core gameplay style was after 06, and that was definitely to distance themselves as far as possible.

And even with Heroes the "speed" style was pretty similar to the core gameplay style of past games.

Hell, Sonic's core gameplay was one of the most faithful transitions to 3D - Mario invented an entire new subgenre, Lo Z rehauled its combat system, Metroid became an entirely new genre, but all Sonic got was the homing attack to account for the added difficulty of bouncing off enemies in 3D.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#69514: Nov 29th 2022 at 4:42:11 PM

@FOFD Try to stick it out, the boss fight is worth it. If you can believe it, its even more anime then the first Titan was.

Plus, Sonic's interactions with Knuckles are great.

ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#69515: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:09:32 AM

DLC announcement for Sonic Frontiers

Not that I'm surprised. I'm hoping the minor stuff is all free and update 3 is the only thing you have to pay for.

Edit: ALL UPDATES CONFIRMED FREE

Edited by ReynTime250 on Nov 30th 2022 at 5:18:26 PM

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#69516: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:15:02 AM

More playable characters that aren't wolf Sonic, baby Sonic, or Shadow! Yay! :)

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#69517: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:23:51 AM

Non-costume DLC that isn't useless overpriced nonsense!?

Best Sonic game ever

[up][up][up] Looking forward to it. The one enemy that leaves the cyloop trail confused me. The game mentioned enemies that stole the Chaos Emeralds and I'm pretty sure I broke one of them, but nothing happened? Did it actually have a Chaos Emerald or did it just warp away?

Edited by FOFD on Nov 30th 2022 at 12:24:11 PM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69518: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:26:28 AM

I'm really curious about that new story. I wonder if it will be low-stakes or high-stakes.

EDIT: Solely based on the art I have come to the conclusion that part of The End survived in Sage and the others have to help save her.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 30th 2022 at 12:27:38 PM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#69519: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:31:02 AM

That DLC roadmap looked too good to be true, so I checked the tweeter and he's Senior PR manager at SEGA.

Having Tails, Knuckles, and Amy be playable in a mainline Sonic game?! HOLY CHILI DOGS, BATMAN! surprised

Now we're really healing! grin

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 30th 2022 at 2:02:34 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#69520: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:32:14 AM

Oh wow, Cue the Flying Pigs.....I'm really curious on how they plan on integrating three playable characters in this style of play.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#69521: Nov 30th 2022 at 10:07:12 AM

@FOFD If that enemy manages to grab Sonic, yes, it'll steal an Emerald, then you have to chase it down and break it to get it back.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#69522: Nov 30th 2022 at 10:14:15 AM

Ohhhhhhhh

Lol, I just arrived on the island and lost all the Emeralds. Funny.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#69523: Nov 30th 2022 at 10:15:53 AM

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I'm curious about that myself, but I figure the Open World Gameplay was done with the purpose of integrating other gameplay side.

Now whether they can do that or not is another story, but Frontiers has better credibility than a lot of the Sonic games have had (barring Generations) and more effort has been put into it than they have in a while, so we'll see if they're willing to go the distance to make everyone else fun to play.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 30th 2022 at 10:19:08 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#69524: Nov 30th 2022 at 10:21:00 AM

Oh wow! I never expected to have other playable characters besides Sonic! This is looking really good!

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking

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