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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#69226: Nov 17th 2022 at 8:46:42 PM

Also, the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise has borrowed a lot from the Dragonball franchise, especially with Sonic going Super.

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#69227: Nov 17th 2022 at 8:47:58 PM

There's also Perfect Chaos.

Well at least in terms of naming inspiration.

And needing to get things to achieve his perfect form.

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#69228: Nov 17th 2022 at 9:03:35 PM

Oh man! I never thought about Perfect Chaos possibly being a call out to Perfect Cell from Dragon Ball Z!

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#69229: Nov 17th 2022 at 9:20:37 PM

What I mean is that I don't want every game going forward to be more  Ancients stuff. Keep branching out and doing more and more diverse stuff, instead of continuing to  use ancient aliens to explain everything in the setting.

That's what Kirby lore does. Every game, it seems like the lore goes back further to a previous stage in the timeline of the Ancients' history.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69230: Nov 17th 2022 at 9:27:45 PM

I like how Kirby lore brings back previously oneshot characters and concepts, like the Amazing Mirror being responsible for Queen Sectonia's villainy. If Sonic lore is going to renew its focus on being cohesive, I can see something similar happening with one-and-done concepts.

(I just want Sonic Shuffle 2...)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 17th 2022 at 12:28:53 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#69231: Nov 17th 2022 at 9:38:00 PM

The only one & done concept that the series could even possibly revisit is the Gaia temples from Unleashed...

They cannot do anything with Dark Gaia or Chip for obvious story reasons.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69232: Nov 17th 2022 at 9:43:48 PM

TIL there are lines of Sonic succumbing to the cyber corruption and beginning to lose his memories that you can only hear if you're idle or don't progress for a long time.

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#69233: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:00:09 PM

I do wonder why they don't bring back Sonic Shuffle. I thought it was a pretty interesting game (even if the gameplay was frustrating at times).

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69234: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:01:23 PM

I think it's due to how the cards worked in multiplayer, where they could only be seen on your controller's VMU.

But I only played singleplayer so I wouldn't know. (Mario Parties were spent alone.)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 17th 2022 at 1:01:33 PM

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#69235: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:29:27 PM

I'm beginning to think that Sonic Shuffle hasn't made a comeback because it's too similar to Mario Party.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#69236: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:34:44 PM

It hasn't come back because it was made by the people who made Mario Party...

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#69237: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:44:46 PM

Interesting...

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#69238: Nov 18th 2022 at 1:21:05 AM

I find it hilarious that both Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope and Sonic Frontiers have similar themes of families born of love and fighting a cosmic-level Eldritch Abomination.

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#69239: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:35:43 AM

I just never wanna see Green Hill Zone, Chemical Plant or Sky Sanctuary ever again. They're done for me. Every single scrap of nostalgia I could have for them is gone.

I kinda miss the Dark Age where Sonic took itself too seriously and tried really out there, ambitious shit with each game.

Edited by GNinja on Nov 18th 2022 at 11:51:41 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#69240: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:45:03 AM

Perfect Cell is an American thing (that wasn't even a thing in 1998).

Cell in Japanese refered to his "perfect body", but he didn't really go around as "Perfect Cell". Just Cell.

Also, exact same wird as used in Perfect level Digimon.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#69241: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:47:02 AM

I love how people group Sky Sanctuary in with the other 2 overused levels...even though it was only in one other game before this.

Though, with the amount of cyber space levels that use its theme...I'm sure that did more than enough to wear on people.

Edited by randomness4 on Nov 18th 2022 at 6:47:52 AM

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#69242: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:54:01 AM

I think with Sky Sanctuary my mind is just fatigued by iconography from the original trilogy in general.

I think it's why I have a hard time mustering positive feelings for Generations and Mania, even though they're both great games.

Edited by GNinja on Nov 18th 2022 at 11:55:21 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#69243: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:56:25 AM

It's kind of the only iconography Sonic Team really knows at this point.

Original level themes have been quite infrequent, [up] at least Mania reuses levels that don't really get any attention.

Edited by randomness4 on Nov 18th 2022 at 6:59:44 AM

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#69244: Nov 18th 2022 at 4:39:29 AM

Funny how the "Perfect" form of Chaos is a giant, tentacled water monster that destroys the world.

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#69245: Nov 18th 2022 at 4:42:29 AM

from a certain point of view its a beautiful monster

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#69246: Nov 18th 2022 at 5:19:49 AM

You know, random thought I had about Chaos: Froggy had a tail in Adventure 1 because he ate Chaos's tail, right? But Chaos 4, the first non-humanoid form, had a perfectly functional tail, jumped to chaos 6 when he got his tail back, and Perfect Chaos barely had a body at all.

Was it just an excuse to make Froggy look weird and force Big to participate in the story?

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#69247: Nov 18th 2022 at 5:31:02 AM

Pretty much. Big has no connection to Eggman in general, so a quick excuse was needed.

Shadow?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#69248: Nov 18th 2022 at 9:24:44 AM

I was thinking about Shuffle recently, and on how rare it is that Sonic goes up against magic.

Like, he's fought gods, but most most of those have been big kaijus with elemental powers and so on. It's pretty rare that he's - like - gone up against witches or warlocks or fairies or magic spells and what have you. It's basically just Shuffle and the Storybook games - but we do know that magic is potentially a thing in the Sonic setting, it's just rarely something the games explore.

It might be an interesting new thing to look into in future games.


Another random thought: between Frontiers and the Twitter Takeover, it might be safe to say that Modern! Amy personality wise is now effectively Boom! Amy, but still a Love Freak and without the barely-ever-mentioned archeology thing.

I was hoping they would take that version of the character as an inspiration, so cool I guess.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 18th 2022 at 9:28:33 AM

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#69249: Nov 18th 2022 at 10:09:55 AM

I wonder if the devotion Amy has in the community is like other concepts in this series: a love for a supposed potential other the actual material.

I'm sure she has her fans even in the entries very few like, but still. I saw Precure and more or less get what character they want Amy to be, but Sonic X doesnt really give me that.

I'm not sure if Frontiers personality should be the default.

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#69250: Nov 18th 2022 at 10:46:38 AM

I'm assuming they are toning down Amy's love for Sonic because some people probably thought that it was annoying that Amy's main role in the series is to be Sonic's crazy love interest.

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