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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#68951: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:11:36 PM

Finally managed to watch some (abridged) gameplay of Frontiers thanks to Matt McMuscles's Flophouse Plays channel.

I said "abridged" because they skipped some stuff like saving Amy and Sonic's first encounter with Sage. That being said, there's a perfectly logical explanation for what appeared to be amber-colored copies of Chaos 0, right? Am I right to assume the answer is a doozy and a half?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#68952: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:15:20 PM

[up] Both the short answer and the long answer are spoilers, but yes, there is an explanation.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#68953: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:25:06 PM

[up][up]They didn't skip anything, they footage was unusable because they lost the audio.

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#68954: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:33:57 PM

@lalalei: I assume the quicker load times, borked water on Tidal Tempest and the fact that the EU PC port had the US soundtrack unlike the old Sega CD one, where the Euro release had the Japanese music.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#68955: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:38:21 PM

[up]Yep. The old PC port lost some visual effects from the original but sped up the load times.

And it was stuck with the US soundtrack. On the Genesis Mini 2, CD actually gives you the option to play either the US or EU versions, at least.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#68956: Nov 12th 2022 at 4:57:39 PM

Both the short answer and the long answer are spoilers, but yes, there is an explanation.

I had a feeling! Thanks! Now to find a playthrough that really gets to the nitty-gritty! grin

In other news, remember that position Sega had about an Associate Manager in Sonic Lore?

Katie elaborated on it in detail.

Hey everyone! You may have seen that we posted a position for an Associate Lore Manager for @sonic_hedgehog - what does that mean? (thread)

In the past few years, we've been looking at the entire universe of Sonic and how things tie together canonically for the future. SEGA put together a small team of us internally, and along with the help of talented folks like @tyson_hesse, @IanFlynnBKC, and @SpiritSonic, we're working on making the universe and stories more meaningfully connected.

You may have seen examples of some of these changes in things like TailsTube, the Origins animations, the Knuckles Frontiers prologue (and the prologue comic!), and even Frontiers itself! That said, we are not the only ones involved in these decisions! With the help of Sonic Team, we all work together to ensure everything is airtight.

How does this position fit in? To set expectations, this position is not *the* Loremaster, but an important piece of the puzzle. This is a more managerial role, helping our Director of Lore schedule and collaborate with other teams. You of course will join creative discussions and brainstorms, but these decisions are not a 1-person job.

That said, it's an incredibly exciting role with a great team! It's also worth noting that this is not an entry-level position. The team is looking for someone that already has some solid project management experience!

I feel like this will be an absolute win. grin

Finally, anyone notice how Super Sonic has Sonic's normal shoes even when you equip Sonic with the Soap Shoes? There's a mod to rectify that! grin

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 12th 2022 at 7:59:36 AM

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#68957: Nov 12th 2022 at 5:00:18 PM

Matt and Liam's Playthrough: In the first episode, Matt said they lost game audio. They considered rerecording everything, but they thought it was important to preserve their initial reactions to what they saw, so as not to lose any genuine "whoa" moments. They put up the first episode with their commentary and cobbled together game audio, which was easy for the cutscenes, but could not be done well for gameplay, aside from some music. Their second episode picks up after their first recording session, where everything is working again, but stuff was skipped over. However, they say they will be releasing the "lost" footage at a later date for completeness sake. The biggest thing lost in this kerfuffle is a bunch of Sonic and Amy scenes together. Those at least are fairly easy to find online.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68958: Nov 12th 2022 at 5:52:04 PM

Island 2 100%!

Boss 2, Wyvern, is a marked improvement over Giganto. Much less of a " just keep pressing square until it's over" fest.

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#68959: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:05:03 PM

@powerpuffbats: Probably why I'll stick with the Japanese sega CD version if I feel like it...or just the remaster and call it a day.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#68960: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:11:55 PM

[up]Yep, the Japanese soundtrack is much better than the US soundtrack.

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#68961: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:17:56 PM

Can't argue with that.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68962: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:25:28 PM

Eh, it's on a case by case basis with me.

The USA Future tracks tend to blow the Japanese ones out of the water imo, whereas the Japanese soundtrack has consistently better Present tracks.

And of course most of the best songs in the soundtrack are in both, due to the Redbook issue.

I wish they would release a version of the game that let you toggle the soundtrack per level rather than all at once.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68963: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:25:57 PM

Japanese OST is a better in a vacuum, though I still maintain the US one fits the game better.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#68964: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:29:22 PM

But does it fit...a Sonic game?

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BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68965: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:32:00 PM

I'd say so. The game over music is the one only that feels a bit out of place for the game, even if it is amusingly over the top in its creepiness.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68966: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:32:36 PM

Its done....

Ya know, I need to sleep to gather my thoughts.

All I'll say now is on my immediate feelings after finishing the game; I was already feeling exhausted by the time I got to the third island but kept trucking along to the 4th and 5th.

Then I played the final boss and the game just...pissed all of the good will I had for it.

Take that for what you will...

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#68967: Nov 12th 2022 at 6:54:56 PM

I saw an interesting theory that the Phantom Ruby was a piece of The End that fell off and took a long time to make it to Sonic's planet.

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#68968: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:38:44 PM

[up][up]Not an Ikaruga fan, I take it?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68969: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:42:43 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#68970: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:45:14 PM

...Now you know why I can't stand Tails' section in Unleashed. They're not entirely Bullet Hell, but they're close enough to not be fun. Especially as you can't simply dodge by outright moving. You have to actually press specific buttons just right, which makes it way less fun, imo, of course.

Shadow?
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#68971: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:45:58 PM

I see nothing wrong with a genre shift.

I see it as a way to vary up a game to prevent from being overly reptitive.

Plus, I like it as a homage, espeically since The End is as blatant an Homage to Treasure's final villains in their own Shmups as can be, especially the Stone Like, that I welcome it. That, and its hinted this isn't the last we'll see of The End, as it was only THIS incarnation we defeat, meaning we might have another reccuring antagonist other then Eggman for once.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Nov 12th 2022 at 10:46:33 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68972: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:50:41 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#68973: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:53:52 PM

Genre Shit to a Bullet Hell =/= Non functional Boss.

Some of the best action games out there have them, so I'm not sure why Sonic can't all of a sudden.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68974: Nov 12th 2022 at 7:56:06 PM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#68975: Nov 12th 2022 at 8:05:52 PM

Edit: Nevermind, its not worth it.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Nov 12th 2022 at 11:07:19 AM

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