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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68376: Nov 4th 2022 at 7:33:24 PM

He didn't.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#68377: Nov 4th 2022 at 7:42:53 PM

The Tornado-1 is a different plane than the Tornado, btw. I don't blame the confusion though, since it's named the Tornado-1, can transform just like the Tornado 2, and has "Tornado 03" on the side of it when the Cyclone has "Tornado III" and "P-3a" on the side.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
☆♥☆
#68378: Nov 4th 2022 at 8:07:40 PM

Alright, I'm gonna try and dig up exactly how the Tornado looks in every game.

Classic look - red with grey wings, Sonic is written on the side, a star symbol on the tail

  • Sonic 2
  • Sonic CD (small cameo in the sound test menu)
  • Sonic 3 & Knuckles
  • Sonic Triple Trouble
  • Knuckles' Chaotix (cameo in the ending credits)
  • Sonic the Fighters
  • Sonic 4 (lacks the star symbol on the tail)
  • Sonic Lost World

new Tornado 1 - fully red with yellow stripes, Sonic is written on the side, Tails' tail symbol on the wings and tail

  • Sonic Adventure (first half)
  • Sonic Pocket Adventure
  • Sonic Advance
  • Sonic Rush Adventure
  • Sonic Chronicles

Tornado 2 - mostly blue with red and yellow trim, Sonic is written on the side towards the back, Tails' tail symbol on the wings and tail, can transform in to the X-shape mode

  • Sonic Adventure (second half)
  • Sonic Heroes
  • Sonic Advance 3
  • Sonic Riders

Cyclone - blue with yellow trim, has Tornado III and Sonic written small on the sides, Tails' tail symbol on the tail and small ones on the sides, generally a much different shape with only one set of wings, can transform into the walker and car modes

  • Sonic Adventure 2
  • Shadow the Hedgehog

Tornado 3 - looks a lot like the new Tornado 1 but the coloring is a bit different, Tornado 03 is written small on the back sides, Tails' tail symbol on the wings and tail, has a second seat, and can transform into the X-shape mode

  • Sonic Unleashed
  • Sonic Generations

Notably the Tornado 3 is called the Tornado-1 in the English script for Unleashed, but is only called the Tornado with no number designation in the Japanese script, which makes things rather confusing.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68379: Nov 4th 2022 at 8:22:48 PM

I've never liked the more mecha inspired tornado designs. But that's me just having a personal preference, as imo biplanes are much cooler.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 4th 2022 at 8:23:11 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68380: Nov 4th 2022 at 9:00:44 PM

Only the cyclone really looks like that...

The rest of them look like normal bi-planes, slightly smaller, until they transform.

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#68381: Nov 4th 2022 at 9:49:01 PM

I'm confused in how I should feel towards Sage, since now I know more about her.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#68382: Nov 4th 2022 at 10:04:23 PM

I like the father/daughter dynamic they wrote for Sage and Buttnik. I forgot that she was created by him, but I could've sworn early promo material suggested Sage's AI was the result of ancient technology that the cast stumbled upon? How long ago was it revealed that Robotnik created her? I might've misremembered.

Edited by Tony-Sharx on Nov 4th 2022 at 10:06:02 AM

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#68383: Nov 4th 2022 at 10:56:26 PM

As I understood the leaks, which were many and a lot of it was straight up fake, Sage was always Eggman's, though MAYBE she became self-aware when her tech interacted with that of the Island.

But even ignoring the questionable leaks, we knew her origins because one of the articles Sega released when her artwork was first shown straight up called her an Eggman creation.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#68384: Nov 4th 2022 at 11:04:37 PM

Since we're talking spoiler stuff now, lemme link one spoiler I've come across here

Lore spoiler: the Egg Memos that appeared in the Big's fishing area are audio logs from Eggman, and yes they do have audio: https://64.media.tumblr.com/3179224e8e36bf88114ce808d35efbb0/9f872e7242a70626-e7/s2048x3072/51774cdda9e4c4415c19e51896d8c8c86e18aca5.pnj

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#68385: Nov 4th 2022 at 11:27:30 PM

Just gonna say this now without spoiling anything; these are the best boss fights in the series. They're not amazing, but there is so much more energy going on here than usual.

[up] Yea, they're all voiced. And Mike Pollock's Eggman is...different from how he usually voices him. Much less over the top than it usually is.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 4th 2022 at 2:29:04 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#68386: Nov 5th 2022 at 1:22:21 AM

I have to know one thing, is Metal Sonic in this game?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68387: Nov 5th 2022 at 4:59:49 AM

I have to admit hearing Sticks is mentioned in a mainline Sonic game pleases me more than I thought it would.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#68389: Nov 5th 2022 at 6:57:48 AM

I'm curious how big the open world is compared to similar games. BOTW's huge size intimidated me a bit.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68390: Nov 5th 2022 at 7:20:48 AM

[up][up]Amy mentions her in the ending.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#68391: Nov 5th 2022 at 7:43:15 AM

Now I wonder if this means Tangle, Whisper and Belle would eventually make the jump to main games?

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#68392: Nov 5th 2022 at 7:48:29 AM

IAAAAAN! You cannot do this to me! You haven't even properly introduced her in IDW!

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#68393: Nov 5th 2022 at 8:19:37 AM

No Metal Sonic is not in the game.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#68394: Nov 5th 2022 at 8:26:15 AM

Oh okay.

I'll miss him. sad

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MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#68395: Nov 5th 2022 at 8:30:52 AM

I for one would gladly welcome Whisper into the main game series.

Are explosions science?
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68396: Nov 5th 2022 at 8:40:46 AM

[up]

They could use her as a way to re-introduce the Wispon weapon.

Her's is a little different from the one that the created character in forces used, but they could probably roll with that.

One Strip! One Strip!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#68397: Nov 5th 2022 at 1:48:15 PM

YAKUZU! Are you playing on normal or hard mode? The ending is different in both!

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#68398: Nov 5th 2022 at 1:56:30 PM

[up] Huh!? That explains the two different Ending songs then

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68399: Nov 5th 2022 at 2:07:44 PM

For those who have the game, would you say there's any pressing reason not to preorder it in advance?

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#68400: Nov 5th 2022 at 2:08:17 PM

An underwhelming ending in the main campaign, and a better more conclusive ending hidden. We haven't had that since Colors DS.

SONIC IS TRULY BACK, BABY!

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