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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#67801: Oct 19th 2022 at 6:55:26 PM

Sonic (even more) Heroes!

....I'm probably going to be bricked again.

One Strip! One Strip!
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#67802: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:03:05 PM

I used to fantasize about a Sonic SSX-like game, so that's something I'd like to see since we're never getting another SSX game.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:03:20 AM

i'm tired, my friend
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67803: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:09:56 PM

Team Sonic Racing and Sega almost immediately stopped supporting it and just let it get slaughtered by Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled, which the devs supported for a few months after release.

Still mad about that, lol. I'm like one of the three die-hard fans of the All Stars Racing series still in existence.

Would be nice to get an RPG that doesn't suck.

That'd be dope. Sonic certainly has enough characters to support a party system. As long as they don't get sued by an idiot this time, an RPG would be really fun.

sonic dating sim with vr support

I see your dating sim and raise you one anti-dating sim. The objective is to not end up dating Amy. End up in a committed relationship, and you lose.

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#67804: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:10:32 PM

There's footage of what would've been Sonic themed Pro Skater, but I don't recall if that was prior to SA 2's release or not.

EDIT: Post SA 2, Shadow was featured as well as Sonic. Funnily enough, it was titled Sonic the Hedgehog Extreme, not to be mistaken for the same Extreme that died from development hell back in the mid 90's.

Edited by Tony-Sharx on Oct 19th 2022 at 7:15:36 AM

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#67805: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:11:21 PM

[up][up]If it was shortly after SA 2 I'd say base it on the street boarding segments from that game, or hell, you still can by pandering to nostalgia.

Sonic's got crazy worlds, can make lots of unique tracks to snowboard down without snow.

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#67806: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:28:31 PM

I never got to play any of the Sonic Riders games, growing up. Imagine my surprise to find out that there's an actual competitive scene based around the first two entries.

I barely have enough time to invest into Street Fighter. Otherwise I'd pick up Riders, All-Stars and Mario Kart for that racing itch.

Has anyone tried the Sonic Battle R racing sim? I think SEGA would've been onto something if they emphasized racing between different cast members in Sonic multiplayer games.(not in vehicles, I mean)

Edited by Tony-Sharx on Oct 19th 2022 at 7:29:37 AM

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#67807: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:31:20 PM

[up][up][up]Bit of a story with that. It was a prototype made by a company called Vision Scape, an American team that did 3D graphics work for other companies and made a few budget games. They assisted Sonic Team in making the CGI movies in Sonic Heroes. During that time they made the prototype for Sonic Extreme using the engine for a previous skateboarding game they made and presented it to Yuji Naka, who liked the idea and said he would push for it if Vision Scape submitted a design document and estimated budget to Sega. After they had submitted their work on Heroes' CGI cutscenes Sega completely ghosted them, effectively ending the project.

Then a couple years later Sonic Team put out Sonic Riders, which also a game about Sonic character riding hoverboards. So it seems while Naka liked the idea, him or some other decision maker at Sega didn't want to work with another company and ghosted them while having Sonic Team make their own take on the idea.

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#67808: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:31:33 PM

i played sonic colours ds as a tiny tot and loved it. never beat it until about 2 years back tho

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67809: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:38:11 PM

I found it...the trope that Sonic fans despise more than anything else nowadays.

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#67810: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:38:12 PM

[up][up][up]That's shitty, but not entirely surprising.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:38:27 AM

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#67811: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:46:31 PM

Sonic Riders is an odd duck. The first game is pretty good, but a lot of the unlockables are too time consuming to get to be worth the pay off.

The second game I really like the aesthetic and the idea of the gravity mechanics, but the game plays (or at least feels like it plays) quite a bit slower then the first one, and in practice the gravity mechanics are flawed. They really wanted to push Gravity Control, so you can't just drift normally anymore, and turning at all is discouraged. They should've focused more on emphasizing GC's utility for alternate paths through courses. And regular boosting is replaced by Gravity Dive, which would be okay, but there's really only one, sometimes two, spots on any course built for it. The Air Mechanic in the first game is completely gone, but I think that makes the game worse; The player had to strategize their movement techniques to ration their air until the next opportunity to refill some.

And the third game is an Xbox Kinect exclusive game, and not a good one. Gameplay videos I have seen, I actually like a lot of how the game looks to play from the videos of people who have actually gotten the Kinect to cooperate, but then the problem is that the game also seems pretty shallow on content.

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#67812: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:55:32 PM

[up][up][up] I'm trying to remember when the Sonic comics or the latest games has Sonic breaking up the fourth wall to point out a flaw in the story.

Only Colors with Sonic talking to the camera briefly.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#67813: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:59:28 PM

Well, not just times where Sonic breaks the fourth wall, but anytime the game makes a meta-joke on the series. Which I still don't think is THAT often, but happens from time to time Generations had a lot of them, but it was an anniversary Milestone Celebration. That kind of thing comes with the territory.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67814: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:59:31 PM

Its not a matter of talking directly to the audience, but rather undercutting the drama with a joke.

To make it simpler; its the thing everyone hates about Marvel movies nowadays.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#67815: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:01:24 PM

Well, I think in Sonic's case its less of an issue of overusing lampshading, and more an unwillingness to commit to drama in the first place. The "Eggman's been holding Sonic prisoner, and even torturing him!" bit from Forces is a more infamous example.

Edited by diddyknux on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:01:53 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#67816: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:03:01 PM

[up] That particular bit (torturing him) was only in the English version.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67817: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:03:32 PM

And we all know why Sonic games don't commit to drama anymore...

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#67818: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:04:04 PM

...That just makes it WORSE! That means the English script added something that they KNEW had no weight or payoff!

Edited by diddyknux on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:04:39 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#67819: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:11:54 PM

If it makes you feel any better it spawned a plethora of fanfics. Most went with the Stepford Smiler route.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67820: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:24:07 PM

As for lampshading specifically, Colors did have quite a bit of it. I rather liked it - it fit the tone of the game a lot better than some of the later games. My favorite is "experience has taught me to investigate everything that glows."

For as much as it's dialogue was... hit or miss, let's just say, Lost World had another one I liked, where Sonic complains that Eggman has a billion weapons factories, and Eggman explains he has so many because Sonic keeps destroying them.

We should have more scenes where Sonic and Eggman have to interact in a non-threatening context in general, I think. They make an interesting dynamic.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 19th 2022 at 8:29:46 AM

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#67821: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:40:32 PM

And we all know why Sonic games don't commit to drama anymore...
Yeah, because drama and sincerity are cringe. As a mature adult, I'm way too smart to be suckered into feeling an emotion by corporate media. I only enjoy media that preempts my vapid cynicism by undercutting its own tone with meta-commentary about itself. That way I know the makers and I are on the same wavelength in understanding how silly it would be to be emotionally moved by fictional events. Now I can partake in such media while still keeping true to my identity as someone who sees through the shallow manipulations of corporation interests that want me to be a pawn forever running in my rat wheel. These corporations respect my intelligence by recognizing the triviality of their own product, so I know I'm not stupid for spending all my free time consuming it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67822: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:53:20 PM

Here here. Everyone knows showing emotional vulnerability is something only immature children do who haven't learned how to keep their emotions hidden; by getting emotionally invested in these corporate made products you have surrendered yourself to the corporate wheel. Worse still, getting emotionally invested in products that are manufactured for children, and thus you have revealed yourself as a stunted individual who never mentally grew past their formative years.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#67823: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:55:53 PM

Dang, some deep shit going on here.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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#67824: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:56:10 PM

On the topic of spin-offs, a Sonic Musou game would be pretty cool.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#67825: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:57:37 PM

I want Sonic's Werehog form to be in the game, and I want him to play EXACTLY like Luffy from the Pirate Warriors games. [lol]


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