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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#67301: Sep 30th 2022 at 6:32:29 PM

[up]x4 Not the first time Sonic Twitter releases Silver and Blaze pics that are thematically linked.

I personally subscribe to the theory that Blaze is originally from Silver's future, but when the game retcons itself, it ties her to the Sol dimension.

Edited by MrSeyker on Sep 30th 2022 at 6:40:26 AM

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#67302: Sep 30th 2022 at 10:42:12 PM

Didn't a later Rush game retcon the Sol Dimension as actually being the future? Something about how Nega Eggman was actually Eggman's descendant? Wouldn't that make the Sol Dimension the fixed version of the 06 future?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#67303: Sep 30th 2022 at 10:47:41 PM

No...

Sonic Rivals said that Eggman Nega was a descendant.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 30th 2022 at 1:48:22 PM

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#67304: Sep 30th 2022 at 10:49:31 PM

Point still stands.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#67305: Oct 1st 2022 at 4:51:46 AM

The Sol dimension is a separate dimension, and Eggman Nega is from the future. He just wanted to take over a different dimension in the past, because guy is bonkers.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#67306: Oct 1st 2022 at 4:54:33 AM

Really, everything comes down to nobody in Sega fucking communicating with anyone else in any meaningful capacity.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#67307: Oct 1st 2022 at 9:37:00 AM

I mean, considering the constant struggle between the Japanese and American branches, we already knew this.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#67308: Oct 1st 2022 at 11:58:08 AM

The official stance is basically that Eggman Nega is from the future and you should ignore Rush saying he's from Blaze's dimension, and Blaze is from another dimension and you should ignore 06 saying she's from the future.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#67310: Oct 1st 2022 at 1:13:08 PM

Yeah, the usual stance in these sort of things is that the last game to clarify on something gets the last word. Rush 2 came out after 06 and Rivals 2 came out after Rush 2, so they got last word.

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#67311: Oct 1st 2022 at 1:54:38 PM

Then the Olympics Game takes the final Word. Blaze, dimensión, Silver, Future, Nega, bisexual

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#67313: Oct 1st 2022 at 4:25:54 PM

Also Classic Sonic comes from the past another dimension THE PAST.

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#67314: Oct 1st 2022 at 4:50:47 PM

Sonic lore does not exist.

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#67315: Oct 1st 2022 at 4:57:08 PM

[up][up][up] It means he goes both ways.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#67316: Oct 1st 2022 at 8:40:03 PM

As one of the few people alive who's played the olympic games' story mode, I can confirm that those games also stuck to modern canon and Nega is still from the future. They're also the only place where Eggman Nega will ever appear again, realistically.

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#67317: Oct 1st 2022 at 10:08:13 PM

@Pushover Media Critic: I personally reconcile the past vs. alternate dimension thing with Classic Sonic by saying that Generations caused a split in the timeline, like Ocarina of Time and Star Trek (2009).

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67318: Oct 1st 2022 at 11:11:38 PM

The official story at the moment has gone back to Classic Sonic being from the past. Here's hoping it stays that way and they don't do another weirdo retcon to make it all the more confusing.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#67319: Oct 1st 2022 at 11:52:33 PM

I'm pretty confident in believing that c. Sonic is indeed a split timeline, and that counts as its own universe.

In the ending of Generations 3DS, when the time portal opens up Tails says that it's a portal "back to our world", which establishes that they're now in a different "world", with Forces's attempt at a retcon serving to establish this factoid further.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#67320: Oct 2nd 2022 at 4:23:28 AM

Speaking of retcons, someone noticed that Sonic Channel (aka the official Sonic website in Japan) has removed the ages of characters.

Example: Sonic was canonically 15, but now his age has been scrubbed off.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#67321: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:32:39 AM

Sonic's been 15 for 20 years. I refuse to believe every Sonic game has occurred in the span of less than a year.

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#67322: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:26:09 AM

I can. Busy life, cartoon logic.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#67323: Oct 2nd 2022 at 6:26:35 AM

On the whole future vs alternate dimension debate, it's awfully convenient that there's no character who hears both versions to give an answer.

Like Sonic never learns Rivals Eggman is actually Nega, and Shadow and Silver never interact hear from Blaze on Eggman Nega's history with her.

On that note, I do hate that Blaze is tethered to Silver these days.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#67324: Oct 2nd 2022 at 8:30:09 AM

Them standing next to each other the few times they appear in the same game is quite annoying.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#67325: Oct 2nd 2022 at 8:35:48 AM

I'd say it's more of a result of Blaze having very infrequent appearances than anything, her last mainline appearance was Generations. Silver and Blaze as a team is mostly delegated to spinoff stuff like TSR.


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