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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66651: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:04:12 PM

Hopefully we get a lot of instrumental rock too. I always thought the instrumental tracks were the best ones in the Adventure games (Eggman's music especially. Damn is Cosmic Wall amazing).

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#66652: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:05:50 PM

Cosmic Wall is one of the best stage tracks in SA 2, alongside City Escape, Pumpkin Hill, and Meteor Herd.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66653: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:06:31 PM

Its Eternal Engine for me. That's my number one in SA 2.

Edited by diddyknux on Sep 8th 2022 at 6:07:04 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66654: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:08:27 PM

Eggman's tracks slap very hard.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#66655: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:19:09 PM

Cosmic Wall is Eggman peaking.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#66656: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:23:00 PM

Lot of Eggman Empire sympathy today

Funny enough somebody made a whole video about why Cosmic Wall is an awesome Eggman level.

Edited by FOFD on Sep 8th 2022 at 7:23:27 AM

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#66657: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:36:05 PM

I can't recall much of Cosmic Wall's theme, just that that the low gravity meant I was actually really enjoying a mech level, which was a novelty.

As far as Frontiers' song so far? Eh. I've found vocal Sonic themes to be pretty hit and miss in general, so the two revealed so far fall into a similar category as others; fine to listen to, but not something really remembered all that much.

Edited by BorneAgain on Sep 8th 2022 at 7:50:02 AM

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#66658: Sep 8th 2022 at 4:55:46 PM

The SA 2 theme that I am most likely to go back to is Pyramid Cave.

I just think it's neat.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66659: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:15:26 PM

I also really like Sand Ocean, too.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#66660: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:17:19 PM

Ranking for stage themes in SA 2?

Speed:

Green Forest > City Escape > White Jungle > Radical Highway > Metal Harbor > Crazy Gadget > Pyramid Cave > Final Rush > Sky Rail > Final Chase (All of them ultimately great, but I think Final Chase is meh)

Shooting:

Eternal Engine > Mission Street > Cosmic Wall > Prison Lane > Lost Colony > Sand Ocean > Hidden Base > Weapons Bed > Iron Gate (Leans more towards weaker from Sand Ocean onward, with Weapons Bed and Iron Gate being kind of forgettable for me)

Treasure Hunting:

Meteor Herd > Mad Space > Security Hall > Pumpkin Hill > Wild Canyon > Dry Lagoon > Death Chamber > Egg Quarters (Last two are pretty forgettable, but Meteor Herd is definitely top 5 overall in the game for me)

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66661: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:21:05 PM

I have a soft spot for Egg Quarters, the "ahs" are so cheesy. I mean, all of Rouge's music has that, but that one just feels over the top in the teasing somehow. Security Hall is my favorite Rouge track, though.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66662: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:29:25 PM

Regarding Rouge, we're getting off stage themes but Fly In The Freedom is really freaking good.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#66663: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:30:29 PM

I've learned to love Fly in the Freedom more and more over the years. It's just so perfectly...catty.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66664: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:30:39 PM

A Nd underrated as hell...

Rouge in general is underrated.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66665: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:34:48 PM

Fly In The Freedom (and to a lesser extent the rest of her music) is basically a send-up to Fertile Ground and I love it for it.

I've always gotten the impression that the musicians Sonic Team works with, and maybe even the developers themselves, all have a wide variety of musical influences and inspirations, which is why the music in Sonic games tends to be so good. They know things to call on for any theme or situation: they want something to be uptempo, or groovy, or smooth, or epic, they know where to look.

Like how you can tell that someone at Nintendo really likes ragtime and early jazz / dixieland / etc.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 8th 2022 at 5:41:36 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#66666: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:37:09 PM

Loved how Adventure 2 managed to make levels that heavily reuse assets feel different with just a change of music. Just look at Mission Street, Radical Highway and City Escape.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#66667: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:40:16 PM

If we’re talking vocal themes, my top 5 would be in no order:

Unknown from ME (SA 1), Vandalize (Frontiers), Knight of the Wind (Black Knight), Un-Gravitify (Zero Gravity) and Dreams of An Absolution (‘06)

And to round out the top 10: Team Chaotix (Heroes), Dear My Friend (Unleashed), Cosmic Eternity - Believe in Yourself (CD), Diamond in the Sky (R), Live and Learn/Open Your Heart as a tie.

And there are several others I love.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66668: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:44:51 PM

[up][up] It helps those reused levels also had different aesthetics like different times of the day and set pieces to set them apart.

That said, the asset reuse gets blatant when it comes to the Ark levels.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66669: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:49:02 PM

Fly In The Freedom is really freaking good.

Agreed, I love Rouge's theme. And I agree with BlackYakuzu that Rouge is underrated in general.

Edited by diddyknux on Sep 8th 2022 at 7:49:29 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66670: Sep 8th 2022 at 5:51:44 PM

City Escape is entirely original.

Mission Street just briefly uses like the boss fight area at the end.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#66671: Sep 8th 2022 at 6:26:29 PM

[up][up][up]MOST of the Ark levels are pretty good about Asset reuse- there's only so many ways you can make 'hallway on a space station' interesting, after all, and stage gimmicks manage to make most of those hallways pretty interesting anyway.

I'd say the only time the reuse is egregious in the Ark levels is the outside ones, Final Rush, Final Chase, and Cosmic wall, and you know what? I think even those are fine- In a hypothetical game where Shadow wasn't playable, it would've been Cosmic Wall that capped off the Dark Story, and the primary hero and primary villain of the game would've had mirroring stages; Shadow got his tacked on and reused assets to make his stage even more of a mirror of Sonic's.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#66672: Sep 8th 2022 at 6:36:32 PM

RE: "I'm Here":

Finally, I get to hear this one. Yup, this is definitely the song we were hearing in the Japanese commercial.

Awwwwwwwwww yeah, this really takes me back to before Sonic Colors!

Forget slapping, this song is literal fire. (Though I really hope this is just a morsel and there's a longer version coming.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 8th 2022 at 9:38:21 AM

ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#66673: Sep 8th 2022 at 7:16:32 PM

Back to the Shounen Sonic days.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#66674: Sep 8th 2022 at 7:23:11 PM

I want to hope for more, but if there was all that much more to the plot than Sonic getting trapped, then getting occasional communication from his friends, I feel like a Japanese spot or an article would've leaked more by now.

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#66675: Sep 8th 2022 at 8:52:01 PM

Flynn wasn't lying, the mood of the game is melancholic.

I'm starting to think the Evangelion inspirations aren't a coincidence and Sonic Team does feel depressed. Oh well.

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