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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#66601: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:24:38 PM

Regarding the licensed music tangent. I cna think of a few examples

  • Arknights has used Starset songs for their launch trailers, and had commissioned a third to boot.
  • Rhythm Games in general can run the gaunt to having a minority of licenses (Bemani) to being entirely licenses (Guitar Hero, Just Dance) to having little to no licenses (pretty sure Arcaea and Cytus fits outside of collabs)
  • The one Need for Speed game I played also had licenses tracks (the ones I remember being Riders of the Storm, the Death and Resurrection Show and Nobody) so I assume its something the franchise in general does.


Going back to Sonic and Frontiers, what role do you guys think Sage will play? she seems like someone that could be either a protagonist (or rather duterogonist) or antagonist.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66602: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:26:24 PM

Seems like she's trying to protect something given how persistent she is getting Sonic off her island.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66603: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:33:42 PM

Her only appearance is in Sonic Frontiers.

Um...since the only thing shown of her so far is trying to get Sonic to leave and attacking him, I'd say it's pretty clear she is meant to be an ally.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#66604: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:42:54 PM

An interesting discovery has been found regarding the song.

Apparently the soft piano-heavy music that's been playing in some gameplay videos for Sonic Frontiers is 1/1 with One Ok Rock's song.

Speaking of the song, it SLAPS. Yeah, it's not the song we heard a snippet of in the Japanese commercial, but it still SLAPS.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#66605: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:45:33 PM

We've evolved past the need for Crush 40.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS EVOLVING PAST NEEDING CRUSH 40!!!!'

As for Sage, ally seems likely, though I do wonder why she doesn't just say why she wants Sonic to leave.

You be surprised how many pointless fights can be avoided with communication.

One Strip! One Strip!
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66606: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:49:47 PM

Well, these things happen to Sonic a lot.... Sonic 3 & Knuckles... Sonic Adventure... Sonic Advance 2...

MULTIPLE times in Sonic Heroes, in conversations involving six people. SOMEONE should've stopped to say something before fighting broke out! Rouge, you stopped Shadow and Omega from killing each other, why not anyone else!?

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#66607: Sep 6th 2022 at 7:01:05 PM

Sage is Infinite without the cringe so far. And if I get my way I don't have to hear about him again.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#66608: Sep 6th 2022 at 7:06:36 PM

I can see the comparison, she does seem like she uses a gaslight Phantom Ruby.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66609: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:08:03 PM

Gladly talk about Infinite every time Sage releases those tiny cubes....

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#66610: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:35:40 PM

Holy crap she really is Infinite in disguise.

Right down to creating buggy false parallel dimensions for Sonic.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66611: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:48:24 PM

They really said "Hey let's do Infinite again, but not make it suck this time"

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#66612: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:54:45 PM

I hope Sage is evil. Sonic games have a disappointing dearth of evil female characters. In fact, I can only think of Witchcart.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#66613: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:57:42 PM

Merlina?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66614: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:01:13 PM

She wasn't evil...

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66615: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:03:34 PM

[up][up][up]Zafira. BOOM.

...Except not really, because the Deadly Six are pretty lame.

EDIT: I'm not fixing it. BEHOLD MY IDIOCY!

Edited by diddyknux on Sep 6th 2022 at 11:20:25 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66616: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:07:39 PM

[up][up] Well-Intentioned Extremist are still villains.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#66617: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:08:21 PM

Technically, I never said the word "villain".

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66618: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:13:47 PM

I doubt she's gonna be a Card-Carrying Villain, but it's clear she's not benevolent in any sense of the word.

Man, people sure do get hostile when Sonic treads on their homeland. Right Knuckles.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66619: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:13:53 PM

Zeena may just come back, if you want an Evil Female...

Just not in the games.

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#66620: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:15:45 PM

Yeah, I was gonna say, I thought her name was Zeena, not Zafira. And she counts as an evil woman, her entire personality is "evil" and "woman".

Also, Rouge counts as a villain in Sonic Adventure 2.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66621: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:15:55 PM

Zeena? *Checks character page* ...Where the fuck did I get Zafira from?

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#66622: Sep 6th 2022 at 9:17:13 PM

Maybe you accidentally mentioned someone's OC.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#66623: Sep 6th 2022 at 10:15:46 PM

From Writer Conflicts with Canon:

  • According to the Sonic 4 web site, Sonic and Knuckles' levels and stories take place at the exact same time in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Fans noted that there was tons of evidence within the game itself that Knuckles' story is after Sonic's story. Examples include Angel Island Zone Act 1 showing only the sky in the background instead of the ocean, Eggman's Death Egg is missing in the background for Launch Base Zone and Lava Reef Zone Act 2, the ghosts in Sandopolis Zone Act 2 are already wandering around at the start (you later find the container that held them was already broken by Sonic), and Mecha Sonic appears to fight Knuckles at the end of the game since he didn't explode when Sonic defeated him previously. This was rectified by later material stating that it indeed took place after Sonic's campaign.

WCWC only applies to Word of God conflicting as opposed to All There in the Manual or other official material. Which is the website? A official material or in-universe source? Or a out of universe blog?

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#66624: Sep 6th 2022 at 10:20:49 PM

Should a website for a specific game even be used as a source at all? Those kinds of sites don't have a long shelf life.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#66625: Sep 7th 2022 at 5:08:30 AM

Why are there no Win Back the Crowd examples on the YMMV page for Sonic Frontiers?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."

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