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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#65951: Jul 28th 2022 at 4:55:56 AM

Even in the game they're introduced in, SA 2, there's plenty of levels where the rails are just THERE with no explanation, especially Shadow's giant canyon full of rails with no explanation.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65952: Jul 28th 2022 at 5:39:12 AM

Sonic Nex Gen, Secret Rings, and Black Knight are the only games where rails always naturally come from the environment.

With Kingdom Valley having a"air"a rails, which avoids the prospect of them just randomly being there.

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#65953: Jul 28th 2022 at 1:36:28 PM

Origins speedrunning strats.

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#65954: Jul 29th 2022 at 10:49:08 AM

Question? Has Sonic in any form of media ever used static electricity using his super speed to cause a super shock? Cause that would be cool move to do in a game.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65955: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:02:58 AM

In Sonic 3 I think he can do a sort of insta shield using static electricity.

But that atatic electricity shit they do in thw movies is just a waste of SFX and a trend the Flash TV show startrd.

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#65956: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:22:27 AM

...is that why Sonic's powers look like lightning in the movies? Because if we're going to assign an element to Sonic, he hasn't really ever been strongly associated with electricity beyond stuff like the thunder shield. If anything, it would be wind.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#65957: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:26:35 AM

If Sonic has ever used his speed to build up static electricity, the most likely place would probably be Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#65958: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:34:32 AM

Or Archie comics, where he was able to cross a gap by picking up dirt, throwing it across the empty space, and then running on the dirt.

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#65959: Jul 29th 2022 at 11:48:58 AM

I don't recall any moments of that outside the movies. Then again, I've barely read the comics and the only shows I'm familiar with are Underground (Groan) and X. Anyways, you know the drill. Pariah video, Sonic Advance, yada yada. Although, I will say that of the pure 2D games, while I haven't played them I do think that Advance looks more interesting than the Classic games. I don't know, maybe it's because the characters seem to have variety instead of being Sonic echos.

Edited by mstorzil on Jul 29th 2022 at 11:57:36 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65960: Jul 29th 2022 at 12:02:34 PM

Yeah, having a single extra useless attack is more interesting than the flying & gliding/climbing they already had.

Only Amy's extra stuff actually matters if you care about the characters being different in utility.

Edited by randomness4 on Jul 29th 2022 at 3:03:23 PM

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#65961: Jul 29th 2022 at 2:04:25 PM

It'd be interesting if Dr Starline did get resurrected only to wind up as part of an Anti-Eggman Legion, a group of villains who want revenge on the mad doctor for wronging them or just because they think they can run the world better.

So far the amount of candidates would be low and the ones that could be members (such as Infinite, Dr Eggman Nega and by extension Metal Sonic 3.0 and also Imperator Ix) are all either dead or stuck in another dimension, making the idea improbable unless a bunch of new villains were introduced.

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#65962: Jul 29th 2022 at 2:18:41 PM

Eh, correction, beyond Chronicles being non-canon, Imperator Ix has no relationship with Eggman. He is like Black Doom, a third party enemy who doesn't care about the "Sonic Cycle" (Sonic vs Eggman drama) and is doing his own thing.

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#65963: Jul 29th 2022 at 2:46:48 PM

[up] Exactly. Imperator Ix has no personal grudge against Dr Eggman like Dr Starline, Eggman Nega or Infinite. He just opposes Dr Eggman because he wants to conquer Sonic's world himself. If anything, an Anti-Eggman Legion would only be tied together due to having a common enemy and fall apart because all the members think they should be the one to rule the world and that their allies are in the way.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#65964: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:02:56 AM

In which my random Sonic thoughts skew towards the memetic:

If I had a nickel for every time the games have set up a boss fight between Sonic and a mind-controlled Tails, only for it not to happen, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65965: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:21:29 AM

...when was the second?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#65966: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:22:56 AM

First was Colors, second was Lost World.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65967: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:23:36 AM

Lost World and Colors.[nja]

Interesting that Sonic and Amy have thrown down but Sonic and Tails haven't in the games at least.

Edited by FOFD on Jul 30th 2022 at 2:24:18 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65968: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:57:33 AM

Hmmmm.

You technically happened in the very obscure Sonic pinball party.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#65969: Jul 30th 2022 at 5:30:16 PM

At what point was it decided that Tails was the Smart Guy? Because I don't think there's anything to suggest this in the original Genesis games, and I can't find anything made before Sonic Adventure that says he's a genius or anything.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65970: Jul 30th 2022 at 5:38:07 PM

Immediately...

Both Tails Adventure & the OVA are pretty obvious early examples.

But clearly in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 have him provide attachments to the Tornado.

Edited by randomness4 on Jul 30th 2022 at 8:40:02 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65971: Jul 30th 2022 at 5:50:42 PM

Yea, its literally immediate obvious. Tails Adventure is entirely about him using gadgets, he's the one who maintains the Tornado, etc etc

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#65972: Jul 30th 2022 at 5:57:16 PM

I wouldn't say it's particularly obvious. Technically both Sonic and Tails could fly and maintain the Tornado with nothing in-game to suggest Tails was better at it. And Tails Adventure is kind of obscure.

He probably was always meant to be smart, but I think this might be another thing with a regional gap, since I recall early American cartoons and comics mostly depicting Tails as an immature kid sidekick rather than a mature-for-his-age boy genius.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65973: Jul 30th 2022 at 6:01:58 PM

Yeah IIRC the Tornado was originally Sonic's plane in the Classic games.

Tails gadgeteering only became apparent in Sonic Adventure. Most people probably haven't seen the OVA beyond memes and discussion forums.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#65974: Jul 30th 2022 at 6:18:39 PM

It was there as early as Sonic 2's JP manual.

Of course, Tails only became a general genius as of SA 2, before then his intelligence was largely centered around planes.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65975: Jul 30th 2022 at 6:41:04 PM

The Tornado being Sonic's plane had nothing to do with what was said.

Randomness said that Tails is the reason the Tornado had attachments added to it...

If you care about the narrative reasons it suddenly has a rocket on it after Wing Fortress or an extendo-plunger that catches the Master Emerald...

Both of those things are because Tails was always intended to have mechanical prowess.

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