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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#65801: Jul 8th 2022 at 1:13:19 PM

Jon from Good Vibes Gaming does a follow-up to his Secret Rings video with a Black Knight video.

He's once again very positive about the game, moreso than Secret Rings.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65802: Jul 8th 2022 at 1:49:05 PM

Because that game was crash brah.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65803: Jul 8th 2022 at 2:06:24 PM

Black Knight is an absolute phenomenal packet.

It's only the gameplay is very un-fun.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65804: Jul 8th 2022 at 3:05:41 PM

Its a shame that I like everything about that game except for how it plays...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65805: Jul 8th 2022 at 3:20:24 PM

And there are worse spinoffs tbh in that regard, but, SEGA being reactionary and throwing the baby with the bathwater...

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65806: Jul 8th 2022 at 3:32:44 PM

Well it sold like shit sooooo.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65807: Jul 8th 2022 at 4:19:53 PM

Oh yeah, it came out months after Unleashed on the same console, and was delisted in no time.

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#65808: Jul 10th 2022 at 11:12:44 PM
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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65809: Jul 11th 2022 at 9:59:24 AM

Remember to write something when sharing a video.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Solsun Since: Aug, 2021
#65810: Jul 12th 2022 at 10:18:32 AM

So friends, its a obvious question but alas it has to be asked, whos the most best Hedgehog? Sonic or Shadow?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#65811: Jul 12th 2022 at 10:27:40 AM

Silver.

Edited by windleopard on Jul 12th 2022 at 6:29:00 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65812: Jul 12th 2022 at 10:28:26 AM

My pet.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#65813: Jul 12th 2022 at 10:55:28 AM

The hedgehog in an Hungarian folktale who helps some guy who promised that one of his daughters will be the hedgehog's bethrothed.

Edited by NoName999 on Jul 12th 2022 at 10:57:02 AM

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#65816: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:08:22 AM

Is it too late to say "The Archie version of Amy"?

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65817: Jul 12th 2022 at 4:31:24 PM
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To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65818: Jul 12th 2022 at 4:48:13 PM

Hey mr. Mod, I was insulting the character of Infinite, not Iizuka himself. Excuse the misunderstanding.

Anyway, let me repeat it:

Iizuka confirms there is no Chao Garden in Sonic Frontiers.

And that he feels Eggman peaked in Forces, so don't expect him to do so again.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#65819: Jul 12th 2022 at 5:05:13 PM

The forum isn't for character bashing. That's the simple point being made. Or any kind of bashing, really.


As for the important topic, Chao Gardens are cool, but I'm not surprised at a lack of return. They were also designed to connect with a handheld variation(Dreamcast VMU, Game Boy Advance games) but also were part of the general Adventure-style games with at least 3 completely different playable characters. While the latter doesn't matter that much, the former is a much bigger deal, as that's their core design. The 3DS was pretty much put out to pasture, meaning there's no good way to create it properly again for the Switch. It's not impossible to do with the Gamepad, but it's easily harder to figure out a good way to do so. Probably one they don't want to try their hand in. Since it's literally two games in one, they'd have to rebuild how the Chao work, and their raising capabilities, while having a side mode. Worth noting that these side modes also were often used for 100% completion, to the point of being rather tiresome. While some of the various Emblems were a pain, making sure your Chao are super perfect, which requires reincarnation(which does have some RNG to it) is a lot more difficult than just "git gud".

Returning them outside of that would be nice, though. They were very fun to play with, less fun to actually require them. It was still cute seeing the Karate, etc.

Edited by Irene on Jul 12th 2022 at 7:19:12 AM

Shadow?
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#65820: Jul 12th 2022 at 5:24:20 PM

Honestly, the real profit might be in a Chao mobile title. From a coldly financial standpoint, it's an easy way to make money via gacha/microstransactions, you could crib from Pokemon Go by encouraging walking to develop Chao, and with some adjustments one could probably tie it into other mobile Sonic games or even a few of the console variations.

Given that Sega threw away a lot of money on a failed Sakura Wars mobile release, Chao Garden on smartphones seems like a much safer bet.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65821: Jul 12th 2022 at 7:10:30 PM

>Sonic Adventure 2 is the best Sonic game.

Feels good to be an SA 2 chad.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jul 12th 2022 at 10:10:51 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65822: Jul 12th 2022 at 7:54:35 PM

I mean, this is what peak Chao looks like. tongue Anything beyond that, is grinding for stats, playing the waiting game so you may cross stuff... The Chao garden is at the same time very fun and an overrated chore.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#65823: Jul 12th 2022 at 8:56:48 PM

Oh gross. Those chao need bone dogs yesterday.

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#65824: Jul 12th 2022 at 9:02:35 PM

[up][x4] Sega will never do the obvious. Out of all the baffling decisions made, the fact that they just dropped the Chao is the most perplexing to me.

I was looking at some fanart and I realized Mecha Sonic really does have a dope design. I can understand Sega not using it with the whole Metal vs Mecha messiness plotwise but I wish it made a comeback somehow. Even as an alternate skin for Metal or something.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#65825: Jul 12th 2022 at 9:49:47 PM

It is honestly surprising that they didn't try making Chao Garden for mobile devices now that it's been mentioned, it's basically perfect for it.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.

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