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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65751: Jul 2nd 2022 at 11:40:07 PM

You know, I think my biggest problem with the Werehog is that it's absolutely nothing like a werewolf and has nothing to do with classic monsters. One trailer for Unleashed had Werehog Sonic in an old ruined mansion and I thought it was gonna be Sonic meets classic monsters. Like, I thought we were gonna get Vampire Rouge, Dr. Frankenstein Tails, Mummy Knuckles, Vampire Hunter Shadow, shit like that.

But no, planet god life energy nonsense. Sonic has full control over himself as a Werehog and he gets weird gross stretchy limbs like he's Monkey D. Luffy or some shit.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2022 at 11:41:12 AM

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#65752: Jul 3rd 2022 at 12:48:16 AM

Vampire Rouge and Frankenstein Tails I get. Any particular reason for Mummy Knuckles and Vampire Hunter Shadow?

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#65754: Jul 3rd 2022 at 3:39:26 AM

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That and the entire motion controls element has always made the games a tough sell to anyone outside the hardcore fandom. "Sonic interacts with genies and the characters of King Arthur" on top of (seemingly) using gimmicky waggle interaction feels like a recipe for disappointment to casual fans, regardless of how well executed the gameplay or story actually is.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#65755: Jul 3rd 2022 at 4:03:53 AM

[up]x4 For me, that actually kinda makes it more amusing in hindsight tongue (I didn't know One Piece back then)

I just take it as converting Sonic's leg power into arm power... Werehog is a silly name, though.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65756: Jul 3rd 2022 at 4:26:47 AM

Hedgewolf would have worked better ngl. Werehog is more apt for Ganon.

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#65757: Jul 3rd 2022 at 5:00:16 AM

Vampire Rouge and Frankenstein Tails I get. Any particular reason for Mummy Knuckles and Vampire Hunter Shadow?

Just picking ones that kinda seemed to fit. Mummy monsters are resurrected with the rage and curses of the past, and that more fits Chaos, but it's thematically appropriate for the Echidna tribe in general.

And Shadow as a vampire hunter is to make him an anti-hero/anti-villain opposing all the monsters, and also because Shadow uses weapons and vampire hunters tend to use some really crazy gadgets for hunting monsters. Also vampire hunters are edgy, and Shadow in a Van Helsing outfit would slap.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 3rd 2022 at 5:02:39 AM

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#65758: Jul 3rd 2022 at 6:09:54 AM

[up][up] IIRC, it was originally going to be called "Hog-wolf", but tons of people online were already calling it "Werehog", so Sega decided to just roll with it.

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#65759: Jul 3rd 2022 at 6:26:11 AM

[up][up] Is Rouge gonna be that one vampire who teams up with the Vampire Hunter to destroy a greater threat? Or should she be nervous around Shadow?

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#65760: Jul 3rd 2022 at 6:45:47 AM

Maybe both? I like the idea of the classic "vampire teams up with vampire hunter" shtick, but actually both are on the villain's side.

I'm already using Dr. Frankenstein as Tails, but that raises the question of who Eggman would be. Dr Frankenstein fits him better than Tails, but if Sonic is a werewolf and Shadow is a vampire hunter, the idea seems to be flipping the script on who's good and who's bad in classic monster stuff. Maybe Eggman would be a more good monster doctor, maybe he's The Fly?

Also, Witch Amy. She flies on her hammer instead of a broom.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65761: Jul 3rd 2022 at 7:56:57 AM

I mean, Amy had already done a damn fine Morgan le Fay/Lady of the Lake... It works.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#65762: Jul 3rd 2022 at 9:17:30 AM

The Shadow the Hedgehog scene where Sonic breaks up Shadow talking about his past to boast is completely accurate. Shadow the Hedgehog has a lot of weird tone issues in the story.

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#65763: Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:04:14 AM

Watching Adrenaline Dubs' playthrough of Origins. Looking at their difficulties going through Sonic 1, I can't tell if if they're bad or if 1 is really that badly balanced. It's looking pretty rough even with the Spin Dash.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65764: Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:13:59 AM

1 punishes rushing through. Play it like the platformer it is.

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#65765: Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:18:01 AM

[up][up][up]I was waiting for somebody to confirm that because as I said, I could totally buy that being a thing Sonic did in that era.

But that scene is from “Shadow the Hedgehog”?

[up]That brings up an interesting question: what games are the best for just rushing through, all quick reflexes and reaction timing?

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#65766: Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:27:31 AM

[up]Yeah, it's from before you go to Space Gadget on the Hero Path. Very strange scene.

Edited by Joshbones on Jul 3rd 2022 at 10:27:44 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#65767: Jul 3rd 2022 at 12:45:24 PM

Knuckles as a Mesoamerican mummy is a fun idea, given the vibe the Adventure games gave the Echnidnas.

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#65768: Jul 3rd 2022 at 4:30:46 PM

IIRC, it was originally going to be called "Hog-wolf", but tons of people online were already calling it "Werehog", so Sega decided to just roll with it.

I'm not sure what to curse more, the ever archetypal Unpleasable Fanbase of the zeitgiest that made "were-" associated with lycanthropy despite it being the part that means "man"!

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jul 3rd 2022 at 4:31:05 AM

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#65769: Jul 3rd 2022 at 4:50:06 PM

It doesn't sound likely...

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#65770: Jul 4th 2022 at 7:34:35 AM

That and the entire motion controls element has always made the games a tough sell to anyone outside the hardcore fandom. "Sonic interacts with genies and the characters of King Arthur" on top of (seemingly) using gimmicky waggle interaction feels like a recipe for disappointment to casual fans, regardless of how well executed the gameplay or story actually is.

Not even just the motion controls but the fact that the games are essentially on rails runners with awkward mechanics and gamefeel. These elements have been received very negatively overall throughout the years, and even most of the vindication these games have gotten from the Sonic fanbase has to do with their story and presentation rather than gameplay.

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#65771: Jul 4th 2022 at 9:12:33 AM

One day, enough fan art.

How outdated it Will be, time Will tell.

Edited by Tomodachi on Jul 4th 2022 at 9:16:31 AM

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#65772: Jul 4th 2022 at 7:32:24 PM

Is the third phase against Metal Sonic in Sonic Mania always horrendously difficult, or just when you're playing as Mighty?

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#65773: Jul 4th 2022 at 7:51:47 PM

I've always found the Metal Sonic fight difficult.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65774: Jul 4th 2022 at 8:12:57 PM

Outside of the fact that it shouldn't really be...

Yes, the fight against Metal Sonic is recreation of the final boss of Sonic 3.

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#65775: Jul 5th 2022 at 10:40:24 AM

I think they're talking more about the Giga Metal phase of that fight. Personally I feel like it's rather difficult.


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