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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#65576: Jun 22nd 2022 at 9:03:24 AM

Yeah, the crappy pricing on top of the usual protection crap is far worse. Sega really needs to quit try to encrypt there games for just a few extra weeks of sales. It makes the games actively worse.

When freaking Puyo Puyo Tetris has lag and long loading times because of it, you know you fucked up.

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#65577: Jun 22nd 2022 at 9:26:38 AM

I know I give all of the Classic games a lot of crap, but I think I woud be sold on a playable Amy. I can imagine that she would have a completely unique moveset with her hammer instead of just another Sonic echo with slight differences. As long as she doesn't have a pitifully low jump, after fighting that gravity changing boss as Knuckles in Mania I never want to see that kind of boss ever again.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#65578: Jun 22nd 2022 at 9:45:04 AM

Honestly I’m just disappointed in this collection.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65579: Jun 22nd 2022 at 9:57:19 AM

Some snippets of Sonic Frontiers, from an interview with Ian Flynn.

https://www.ign.com/articles/sonic-frontiers-writer-ian-flynn-open-zone-dr-eggman-story-ign-first?utm_source=facebook

  • The story, characters and what not were pitched by Sonic Team, Flynn is writing around it. (similar to Sonic Lost World)
  • Synopsis: Sonic, Tails and Amy embark for the Starfall Islands to investigate the disappearance of the Chaos Emeralds. Things take a turn for the dramatic immediately, and Sonic is left alone with a lot of questions. The story is his journey to uncover all the mysteries of the islands, rescue his friends, and discover how everything ties together.
  • Flynn's favorite character to write is Doctor Eggman.
  • There's a tragedy around the Starfall Islands, which Flynn describes that the mood of the game is melancholic.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65580: Jun 22nd 2022 at 10:35:31 AM

Amy's gameplay in the original Advance could work fine I assume; not sure how the inability to spin jump could make her unviable in the classic levels.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65581: Jun 22nd 2022 at 10:50:40 AM

[up][up] I swear Flynn's favorite character fluctuates every year.

But I can believe it.

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#65582: Jun 22nd 2022 at 11:10:48 AM

[up][up][up] More Sonic Frontiers info. Considering the writing of the IDW comics, I've got faith that Frontiers's writing will be a step up compared to Sonic Forces.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#65583: Jun 22nd 2022 at 11:43:45 AM

Dataminers have founded leftover Frontiers data in Origins.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65584: Jun 22nd 2022 at 11:46:09 AM

WE HIT THE JACKPOT

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#65585: Jun 22nd 2022 at 12:11:17 PM

I'm... not sure what this means?

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65586: Jun 22nd 2022 at 12:56:47 PM

It means we have a character confirmation: Big is here with us. He appears to assist us with fishing.

A long awaited reunion with the fishing mechanic.

[up][up][up][up][up] Well, his favorite characters tend to be consistent at least: Knuckles and Eggman.

Edited by Tomodachi on Jun 22nd 2022 at 12:58:25 PM

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#65587: Jun 22nd 2022 at 2:40:36 PM

I bet Eggman is really, really fun to write. I bet he's one of those characters who's so fun to write that writers have to restrain themselves from using him as a crutch and putting him in plots more. I've written villains like Eggman before. It can be intoxicating.

Ever since Eggman got his current characterization (more or less in Unleashed), there's been more and more of him per game. And... going back to our convo about Sonic not really having a personality a lot of the time, it does feel in retrospect that the games have gotten used to using Eggman as the character audiences are supposed to be entertained by and less so Sonic himself.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 22nd 2022 at 2:42:37 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#65588: Jun 22nd 2022 at 2:41:20 PM

I had a dream that Sega announced a rerelease of Adventure 1, 2, and 2 other unrevealed games in a bundle/collection. I woke up thinking it was true and was confused when it wasn't.

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#65589: Jun 22nd 2022 at 2:44:49 PM

The story in Frontiers sounds really interesting! The fact that this game seems like an emotional roller coaster for the whole cast sounds really interesting to me and I hope that the story comes out well.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65590: Jun 22nd 2022 at 3:17:28 PM

I have legit not been this excited for a Sonic game since Sonic Generations.

They finally seem to be doing something new with Sonic and not just throwing in a new gimmick/toony character/redoing the past.

If it can match the tone of the Storybook games I'd be pleased. I think writing in games has evolved beyond the overly edgy Shadow the Hedgehog days, or the insipidness of 2006, or the flawed dialogue of Adventure.

This is a chance to have a Sonic game with a plot, have the characters maybe even develop a little, and put them in situations they're not used to.

Or Sonic could make some kind of onnoxious brick joke and revel in his own Plot Armor. Maybe nobody does anything and the game's events are a one-off. And that'd be a big sad.

But at least from what they're saying I have hope.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65591: Jun 22nd 2022 at 4:16:03 PM

I trust Flynn on this one.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#65592: Jun 22nd 2022 at 4:46:12 PM

I halfway trust he can do what he can. He still has to write around Sega Mandates and their premise, that's not gone away.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65593: Jun 22nd 2022 at 5:00:12 PM

What Unknown said makes sense because Pontac and Graff also preferred writing for Eggman too while their characterizations for Sonic & Tails were much more divisive. Evil Is Cool I guess.

Because before, the writers focused way more on character development for the heroes as opposed to the villains but now the pendulum has been flipped.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#65594: Jun 22nd 2022 at 5:32:17 PM

That would explain Eggman's lack of focus in Forces. The rookie had Character Development.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65595: Jun 22nd 2022 at 5:35:36 PM

And Eggman was boring as fuck in Forces.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#65596: Jun 22nd 2022 at 5:49:45 PM

That's why Dark Story's cutscenes in 2 are a highlight. It's just the villains bantering and causing chaos, and having their own motives while sticking mostly together as a unit.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65598: Jun 22nd 2022 at 6:16:05 PM

And in one he ends up existentially depressed!

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65599: Jun 22nd 2022 at 6:32:33 PM

Ah yeah, the Hero ending to Black Comet, where Shadow teams up with Knuckles to go through a worse Final Haunt, ignoring GUN attacking the Black Arms, to grab a Chaos Emerald and have a Showdown with the Egg Dealer that happens to be there. Then he kills Eggman because nobody tells him what to do.

Then we have the Dark ending on Final Haunt, where he decides to side with the Black Arms at the very last moment, just to beat Sonic up. While heroic music plays.

And the sad thing is that those 2 nonsensical endings are pretty much the most in-character for how Shadow gets used nowadays.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#65600: Jun 22nd 2022 at 6:35:33 PM

I suppose one could say that, unlike Sonic, Shadow didn't chuckle in either of those endings.


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