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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#53676: Aug 20th 2020 at 7:36:32 PM

There's loads more stages they can take from though?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53677: Aug 20th 2020 at 7:42:12 PM

Yes, celebrate the same games twice...(I mean of course)

That's how ya do an anniversary.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#53678: Aug 20th 2020 at 7:47:28 PM

Sure. I'd rather have original content, but I'd say Generationa missed a number of good levels.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53679: Aug 20th 2020 at 7:51:15 PM

Sonic 1 & 2 needed more levels.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53680: Aug 20th 2020 at 7:57:34 PM

Doomsday Zone dammit!

I won't take anything less!

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#53681: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:06:56 PM

Was Generations rushed?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#53682: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:09:31 PM

If it was, it's the best damned Rushed title ever.

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#53683: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:13:15 PM

Yeah, Generations was solid all around save for the Excuse Plot, but that wasn't its appeal.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#53684: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:13:53 PM

Oh how I wish we got games like Generations all of the time.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53685: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:25:14 PM

You and every sonic fan in existence friend.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#53686: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:09:16 PM

"I thought it looked cool"

...well, I suppose he wasn't wrong! :D

...So....what are everyone's thoughts on a second Sonic Generations game

I think it's way too soon. We've only gone through 2 generations of Sonic games and there's not really a "third" to encourage a Generations 2. It'd be nice to have some other Classic and Modern stages reimagined, but I doubt there's enough to justify an entire sequel.

Much as I like some of the stages in Advance, Rush, and Colors - I wouldn't call any of them iconic or worth putting into a game that celebrates Sonic's greatest moments.

he can probably teleport

In a recent issue of the IDW series there's a scene where Shadow could have captured a certain someone, but chose not to teleport and do so. Others say it's because he's still weakened by earlier events, and the Wiki claims he can't do Chaos Control without an emerald.

However, he clearly does it in 2006's opening , which I must also note is the last time my favorite version/characterization of Shadow actually looked cool. He just busts into Eggman's base single-handedly and steals the    scepter of darkness, unleashing an UNSPEAKABLE EVIL.   

Edited by FOFD on Aug 20th 2020 at 9:11:05 AM

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#53687: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:09:31 PM

Generations was pretty much the last really good Sonic game until Mania.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53688: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:12:57 PM

I don't think waiting for an arbitrary amount of time to revisit the last undisputed 3D success the series had is a good idea. There's plenty of good Sonic history that can easily fill a game right now.

Especially for a group like Sonic Team that already has a known problem about not striking when the iron is hot.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 20th 2020 at 9:23:57 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#53689: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:28:29 PM

It feels like we've been doing the revisiting old stages thing a bunch lately, though. Forces did it, Mania did it, shouldn't the next game not immediately go back to the nostalgia well and do something new?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53690: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:34:04 PM

Why stop? Sonic sometimes feels like the only series that gets complaints like that. Practically every other long running platforming series - heck, most long running series in general - has a stable cadre of older stages and mainstay concepts that are in every game. I remember I used to joke that you'll never see a "Mario Generations" game, because every Mario game is like that.

Sonic Team is really the one to look for for a company that does "we gotta reinvent ourselves" too much, not too little. And ironically, as a result they've created a lot of diverse ideas, and most of that well of content is just sitting there, not really being used despite being positively received.

The only problem I really have with Sonic Team's repeating of levels these days is the fact that they only ever pick the same ones, tbh.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 20th 2020 at 10:35:48 AM

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#53691: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:37:44 PM

I'm in the group that's sick of seeing Green Hill and Chemical Plant.

Give me stuff like Metal Harbor, Mystic Mansion, Ice Cap, Starlight Zone, or Aquatic Ruin. Or even give me Wave Ocean.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53692: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:39:21 PM

To transfer over a point:

Sonic Generations isn't the start of Green Hill overuse.

It's in the majority of Sonic games in some form or variation.

Chemical Plant has recently gotten the dual overuse with Green Hill due to getting paired with from Generations to Forces.

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#53693: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:45:04 PM

You can only recycle your old ideas for so long...

I'd much prefer new stages.

Edited by Primis on Aug 20th 2020 at 9:45:12 AM

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#53694: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:46:40 PM

[up]Good point.

It’s just that most of the Green Hill clones weren’t a rehash of the original. That one technically starting in SA 2.

Then we have Angel Island Zone deciding to spice things up by setting things on fire.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#53695: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:46:45 PM

If you ask me there shouldn't be Generations 2 until there's at least been a good original game since the first one.

Edited by Perseus on Aug 21st 2020 at 2:47:03 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53696: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:58:58 PM

Imo, if I were to make a Generations 2, I'd do a twist and start with what were the later levels of earlier games, and then make the hardest levels what were the earlier levels of later games.

I would also add one stage per set, for handheld levels. And one more boss per set, so both Classic and Modern have bosses in each group.

So, something like:

Classic:

  • Sonic 1: Scrap Brain
  • Sonic 2: Mystic Cave (I would've picked Oil Ocean, since that's a later level, but for some reason that has gotten its fair share of repeats over the years)
  • Sonic 3&K: Carnival Night Zone
  • Sonic Triple Trouble: Sunset Park

Adventure:

  • Sonic Adventure: Twinkle Park
  • Sonic Adventure 2: Metal Harbor
  • Sonic Advance Series: Music Plant
  • Sonic Heroes: Hang Castle

Modern

  • Sonic Rush Series: Leaf Storm
  • Sonic Unleashed: Mazuri - Savannah Citadel
  • Sonic Colors: Starlight Carnival
  • Sonic Mania: Studiopolis

And that's without maybe going into the idea of adding another era, mostly because I'm going back and forth about whether that might be too many stages or not.

Already this set up is omitting Sonic CD, 06, Sonic 4, and Forces, and from one stag of each is enough just on their own to fill a whole era even with the "add an additional one per era" idea.

If you ask me there shouldn't be Generations 2 until there's at least been a good original game since the first one.

So... never?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 20th 2020 at 10:28:11 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#53697: Aug 20th 2020 at 10:00:56 PM

I'd like to see locales from the spin-offs, like Flicky Island from 3D Blast, reimagined as traditional zones.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53698: Aug 20th 2020 at 10:33:59 PM

Ooh, that'd be cool.

Or, like stages from Sonic 3D Blast. I wonder how they could translate Rusty Ruin's spinning gimmick into traditional platforming?

Or Spinball. Toxic Caves is a stages I've always wanted to see interpreted as a regular stages. A massic noxious tunnel with loads of stage hazards and pinball elements? Sounds great.

I also thought it'd be cool idea to make a stage that composites elements from Sonic Jump, Sonic Runners and Sonic Dash.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#53699: Aug 20th 2020 at 10:44:29 PM

[up][up][up] If they can't make a good game on its own merits who's to say they wouldn't bungle another appeal to nostalgia? So yeah, in that case, I would say never.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53700: Aug 20th 2020 at 10:50:39 PM

That sounds more like an argument for closing down the series entirely, not an argument against making a specific type of game.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 20th 2020 at 10:51:05 AM


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