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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#53126: Jul 31st 2020 at 4:28:02 PM

Metal Sonic was according to Sonic 4 left behind at Stardust Speedway for a while.

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#53127: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:49:33 PM

You can easily handwave it with Eggman trying a different type of Robot Sonic after the first one got defeated by crashing to a door that the actual Sonic can easily shrug off (Metal dies to the door, Sonic to the laser), so he went for a bulky type of Sonic Robot.

Silver Sonic was a prototype and Mecha the completed version, then he decided "You know what? Fuck it, I just get Metal back and upgrade him to keep up with the current Sonic" and Coloring Colorado, esta historia sigue.

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#53128: Jul 31st 2020 at 6:24:32 PM

I've always taken it as "Metal got left behind after CD, so Eggman builds both the Silver Sonics (the 16-bit and 8-bit versions I believe are different robots) and Mecha Sonic."

Considering that Tails is absent in the original version (and I don't buy that Sonic and Tails would willingly split up), it seems to me that CD takes place basically after both the 16-bit and 8-bit versions of the original and Sega Sonic.

3&K has to be the game that is immediately after the 16-Bit version of 2, seeing as Eggman gets stranded on Angel Island after Sonic knocks out the Death Egg.

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#53129: Jul 31st 2020 at 6:32:19 PM

Tails' Adventure is a solo adventure "after" Sonic 3 btw.

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#53130: Jul 31st 2020 at 6:53:48 PM

[up]I think of it as "before Sonic and Tails met".

IIRC, that's what the storyline in Japan was like. I think that also applies to Skypatrol and Labyrinth.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#53131: Jul 31st 2020 at 11:07:42 PM

"long time no see" came to be specifically BECAUSE Sonic was willing to go and have adventures without Tails.

Anyways yeah Sonic R is canon

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#53132: Jul 31st 2020 at 11:12:04 PM

My theory is that Metal Sonic was from the Bad Future; either Eggman stole/was lent him by Future Eggman, or he used future technology to make Metal Sonic. Mania/Forces implies that Sonic has DBZ timeline traits.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#53133: Jul 31st 2020 at 11:15:15 PM

Or, the more likely option, the writers just made a blatantly lazy retcon.

Afterall, they never said Sonic was past Sonic in this game, nor did they acknowledge the different terminology.

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#53135: Aug 1st 2020 at 7:26:10 PM

So let's see: game that is styled after the older games, but uses a design that a portion of the fanbase doesn't care for which creates division.

Am I talking about Sonic 4 or Project Hero?

Context: The next build of Project Hero is going to streamline a lot of it's old content, including switch to more classic styled models...much to frustration of some Modern fans

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#53137: Aug 1st 2020 at 9:51:30 PM

That's the currently-in sandbox thing involving Tails, Knuckles, and Sonic, right?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#53138: Aug 1st 2020 at 10:02:32 PM

Correct.

Here, it's easier to just post this.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Aug 1st 2020 at 1:04:36 PM

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#53140: Aug 1st 2020 at 10:39:31 PM

No..

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#53141: Aug 2nd 2020 at 4:43:50 AM

Classic in 3D has been perfected by Robo Blast 2. Meh move tbh.

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#53142: Aug 2nd 2020 at 4:47:04 AM

It's just an aesthetic change..

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53143: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:51:36 AM

<looks up Sonic Robo Blast 2>

Hmm... nice. Usually I'm pretty down on Sonic fangames, especially ones that try to do 3D Sonic, but that's maybe the closest I've seen to a fangame get to getting it right.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:55:45 AM

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#53144: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:52:50 AM

People who prefer Modern Sonic are ones up in arms about it.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53145: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:55:33 AM

I don't see why.

I guess because Modern Sonic hasn't had a solid game since....Generations....or Colours? What?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53146: Aug 2nd 2020 at 8:58:06 AM

Also, Robo Blast 2 comes off so much like an attempt to remake Adventure without the Homing Attack (for better or for worse, it definitely needs to find better ways to deal with the hole in transveral eschewing that creates) that it's a little surprising Modern fans would shun it.

Is it literally just a character design thing?

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#53147: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:07:18 AM

SRB 2 is probably one of the best bridges between Classic fans and certain Adventure fans. I mean yeah the core concept is based around a pre-1999 aesthetic but in 3D, but there's so many mods based around Adventure Era concepts that its got genuine appeal for that particular fandom.

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#53148: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:14:45 AM

Both Classic and Modern are associated with two separate philosophies and aesthetics.

Classic fans are generally more concerned about the game play and how it functions, with the most annoying only accepting nothing less than "authentic classic gameplay" but generally its gameplay above anything else.

Modern fans seem more focused on the secondary elements; like music, graphics, and especially story and characters and that's the biggest distinction. Naturally, they are mostly associated with the Adventure series.

So when Project Hero initially used the modern designs. Modern fans felt validation because someone finally was showing that the modern designs CAN function in a proper 3D environment. So when the switch to the classic designs happened, it felt like a betrayal and regression. Most modern fans associate the classic design with regression and stagnation because most classic fans don't seem to care for those secondary elements that Modern fans do.

The irony here that this was literally reversed ten years ago, with Classic fans moaning at Modern Sonic being put into Sonic 4. Because Modern Sonic represents when the series focused more on those secondary elements at the cost of the games actually being functional, so having it in Sonic 4 left a bad taste.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:17:47 PM

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#53149: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:27:16 AM

[up]Very much agree here.

The reasons why I tend to enjoy the Classics differ from why I enjoy the Adventure games.

I like Classic because of how good the gameplay generally is (3&K, Triple Trouble, and Mania moreso than the others).

While the Adventure games do have overall good gameplay to me (barring Amy and Big in SA 1, and some of the Treasure Hunting levels in SA 2), I more enjoy things like the stories, the character interactions, and the music (which I also enjoy in the classics).

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#53150: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:30:42 AM

So yeah, we're fucked.

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