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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#41526: Nov 10th 2018 at 9:58:34 PM

Takeshi Iizuka talks about Team Sonic Racing at Tokyo Game Show 2018!

And yes, you can hear Shadow saying "Deal with it, Sonic!" evil grin

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 10th 2018 at 12:59:29 PM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41527: Nov 10th 2018 at 10:04:54 PM

Booth babes for a Sonic game.

This is a first for me.

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PhysicalStamina so i made a new avatar from Who's askin'? Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
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#41528: Nov 10th 2018 at 11:28:20 PM

Seems like a natural step after that thing with Hooters last year.

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#41531: Nov 11th 2018 at 8:39:22 AM

SonicPassion.com

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Nov 11th 2018 at 11:39:31 AM

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#41535: Nov 11th 2018 at 10:02:28 AM

Did Sonic X ever explain Shadow's creation? If humans live on a separate planet/in a different universe from Sonic's kind, then where did Gerald get the bright idea to make an anthropomorphic hedgehog that just so happens to look so much like Sonic's species?

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#41536: Nov 11th 2018 at 12:29:25 PM

[up][up] I figured you were joking and thought my response was in a jokey matter. (But seriously. No Sonic strip clubs. It’s just something we don’t want to think about.)

[up] Sonic X just followed Shadow's origin as seen in SA2. But now that you mention it, it’s a good question...

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#41537: Nov 11th 2018 at 1:12:22 PM

Sonic X in general is just weird. Mostly because it follows all the stock Japanese kids anime plots in its episodes when it's not shoving Chris in a useless role or adapting one of the games, or shoving Chris in a useless role to adapt one of the games.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41538: Nov 11th 2018 at 1:26:46 PM

There was an episode where Eggman convinced everyone to play baseball. Freaking. Baseball.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#41539: Nov 11th 2018 at 1:41:10 PM

To be fair, baseball episodes make everything better.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#41540: Nov 11th 2018 at 1:46:12 PM

[up][up][up][up] I know it follows his game origin but I thought maybe there was a throwaway line explaining how Shadow works when Sonic's World and Earth are two separate things. There was a line about Eggman being from Earth in X, but they never revealed how he ended up on Sonic's World.

Maybe it's an Adaptation-Induced Plot Hole. Adventure 2 goes with Lions and Tigers and Humans... Oh, My! (I'm still not buying the "They had the split planned since Adventure" quote) while X does not.

It seems like a pretty large thing to miss though. Shadow is obviously not a human.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Nov 11th 2018 at 1:47:12 AM

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#41541: Nov 11th 2018 at 2:20:42 PM

Hell, why is Shadow a hedgehog in the actual games? Gerald could have made his ultimate life form any animal he wanted, so why a hedgehog?

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#41542: Nov 11th 2018 at 2:30:49 PM

I don't know if this is canon or just a fan theory, but it's because he went to Angel Island and saw the mural of Super Sonic.

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#41543: Nov 11th 2018 at 3:14:22 PM

Because hedgehogs are cool.

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darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#41544: Nov 11th 2018 at 3:51:57 PM

There's a lot to support that idea, he directly copied the layout of the Master Emerald Shrine and has robots shaped like Chaos.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#41545: Nov 11th 2018 at 4:34:46 PM

But doesn't that mural depict the golden hedgehog fighting the guy with the mustache? Like, if you have an epic mustache and look just like the guy in the mural, do you really want to make a hedgehog when the mural depicts a hedgehog fighting you?

Edited by WillKeaton on Nov 11th 2018 at 5:44:16 AM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41546: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:22:49 PM

You know come to think of it, Rise of Lyric had Sonic as part of some "ancient mural" as well.

It'd be cool if Boom had followed up on the idea of Sonic being part of some kind of ancient prophecy.

But, no.

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#41547: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:38:01 PM

There's always the comics.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#41548: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:38:08 PM

[up][up] I see the "Shadow is based off the mural" mentioned a lot. It'd be interesting to see that confirmed when the series eventually goes back to more serious stories (I can't see this light-on-plot trend lasting forever, especially with the backlash it's had).

I need to reread Sonic the Comic – Online! but from what I remember they just completely redid Shadow's backstory to fit a World of Funny Animals. He's a robot, no Maria or ARK needed. It's not the most amazing change but at least it's an attempt at rearranging his backstory. It works better than Forces and Xs "Shadow exists just because".

[up] I don't know if Sega gives them enough wiggle room to canonize the theory in the new comics.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Nov 11th 2018 at 5:38:52 AM

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#41549: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:40:29 PM

I meant more that if you want a good, serious (in the sense that the story is sincere, not grim) story you're more likely to get it from the IDW series than any actual game.

But then I like the goofy Saturday morning cartoon feel Unleashed and Colors had.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#41550: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:42:36 PM

[up] Unleashed felt pretty serious to me. It's no Adventure 2 but it has some weight to it.


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