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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995151: Aug 22nd 2015 at 2:08:50 PM

What do you mean by amicable?

edited 22nd Aug '15 2:17:57 PM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995152: Aug 22nd 2015 at 2:16:51 PM

Compromises to be made.

We all understand there are two sides to each coin, do we not?

In theater- there is comedy and tragedy.

Two sides of the same coin.

I am sure that the two of you want to be able to talk with your daughters and have good times with them, as parents should- and this could happen. But there are concerns, of course. Everyone has concerns.

But of course- you would also want them to be happy, yes? And there comes a point where their wants and strive for independence will conflict with your concerns.

I, though they are unaware of my involvement, want to remedy the situation and settle these wounds- allowing the bridges to be made, and neither side will be pushing the other away.

And then- things will look more stable.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995153: Aug 22nd 2015 at 2:20:15 PM

We do want them to be happy but—

They're children. If they were older than we would be having a conversation about independence.

... -not exactly what she wanted to say but just closes her mouth-

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995154: Aug 22nd 2015 at 2:26:00 PM

Children, you say?

Indeed they still grow, but like the current King, he intends to teach the value of independence, and allow that to grow in tandem. He did not try to impose, for he wanted his son to learn the meaning of consequence- what his actions mean.

I am sure you both would agree- things like independence are no mere pull of a lever- one does not turn 18 years of age, let us say, and suddenly become wholly independent. These things are taught, and consequences of one's actions must be learnt- and become apparent.

Would you want to have them be thrown into their world, 'independent' whilst not knowing what their independence means?

And I am sure, 15 is not at all like a child of ten. And their mindset, I would argue, is far more mature in some ways than most 'children' their age.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995156: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:15:46 PM

No. Of course we want them to be independent but when they start making bad decisions, we have to step in.

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#995157: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:17:06 PM

-Sakura is reading a manga downstairs-

-and writing in a notebook-

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Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#995158: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:20:19 PM

-leon is sitting on the couch, polishing a wrench-

Hello Sakura

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995159: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:20:39 PM

-Harriet exists and sees Sakura- Oh, h-hey!

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995160: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:21:10 PM

That is to protect them from the consequences, isn't it?

Let me pose this scenario with the same way one learns about fire-

Does a lesson last more because you were told about how fire hurts, or because you felt the singe of it once?

What I mean to say is- that if they have made a 'mistake' that will not cost them their lives- something that is not irreparable, it may be better to let it play out.

Otherwise, you are putting out a fire before they know what the danger of the fire is, for themselves.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#995161: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:24:03 PM

-startles, shutting her notebook-

W-what is it??

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Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#995162: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:26:13 PM

just saying hello, didn't mean to disturb you

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995163: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:27:25 PM

...Okay, that is a good argument.

So, you're saying let them injure themselves because it will teach them a better lesson.

...Was just s-saying hi.

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995164: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:36:09 PM

-nods to Katherine-

-to Von- That is exaggerating my point.

I said as long as it doesn't directly harm them.

To take us back to the example of a fire-

One is not permanently harmed, but one is stung a little, when they touch a flame.

But keep your hand within the flames, and the damage is dealt.

It is a question of knowing when to, say, in the metaphor, tell them to take the hand out of the fire.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#995165: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:37:25 PM

...Well, I'm reading.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995166: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:45:02 PM

...

W-what're you reading?

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995167: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:49:11 PM

Do you understand how I mean?

If you protect them from all the risks, they will not know which risks aren't worth taking because they all seem the same.

Because they are kept from all of them.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#995169: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:50:43 PM

It's just a manga.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995171: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:54:43 PM

That's idiotic. They're taking a massive risk right now by even going with that boy.

?

edited 22nd Aug '15 4:01:09 PM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#995172: Aug 22nd 2015 at 3:56:48 PM

-luis is around in the main room sitting on teh couch-

-he was busy thinking until he noticed sakura and her manga-

...?

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RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#995173: Aug 22nd 2015 at 4:12:32 PM

They trust him- this is true.

And you say in this situation in particular- it is perhaps idiotic at the outset.

But how much do you trust your daughters?

I understand there has been secrecy involved- but with this response, do you think that you may have driven them towards this end, where it will seem riskier and riskier- because of what they want, they will keep pulling away, making you think that it is far more dangerous than it is?

This is why I am talking about finding a compromise-

I am not at all saying you should forget them, and let them take the risk. Though I can assure you, they are in safe hands, but-

I am saying that- one uses small things to swat a fly, rather than the larger objects.

If you overreact and are too forceful- you risk pushing them further down a path you don't want them to take.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#995174: Aug 22nd 2015 at 4:23:14 PM

It's, like... a comic.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#995175: Aug 22nd 2015 at 4:24:30 PM

... -He's not looking happy-

Oh...

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