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EgregiousEric from space (I am from space) Since: Jun, 2009
#1: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:54:50 AM

EDIT: The title should be "Contradicts description". Thanks for changing the title.

If the first words in the trope description are "He's human.", i doubt the best choice for an image is whatever this is:

Caption: Kyubey's war face.

edited 19th Feb '11 9:18:27 AM by EgregiousEric

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2: Feb 19th 2011 at 8:01:24 AM

[up]As good as an example as that character is, the picture doesn't really describe anything unless you're familiar with the show. The only way I can think of to show this trope is to have a montage of the same character in a bunch of different situations making the same face.

edited 19th Feb '11 8:01:54 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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AceNoctali A lil' bentô ? from France Since: Nov, 2009
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#3: Feb 19th 2011 at 8:13:16 AM

That, or one of those famous Japanese characters' expressions charts, like for example this one.

(Not the best example out there I admit though, she does have slight variations in there, just showing it for demonstration of what I'm talking about)

EDIT: I translated the demo chart in English, for more clarity's sake.

edited 19th Feb '11 8:37:23 AM by AceNoctali

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:03:28 AM

Ooooh, wait. The definition specifically says that this is when the character is unable to move their face, due to scarring, nerve damage or something similar. Not simply when it's an artistic choice by the artist.

"Nerve damage or scars prevent him from showing any expression. Nothing, from abject terror to astounded delight to overwhelming fury to soul-shaking grief, can change his face. (Tears may be possible.) ... May be a result of surgery — usually cosmetic surgery. ..."

edited 19th Feb '11 9:11:34 AM by Madrugada

AceNoctali A lil' bentô ? from France Since: Nov, 2009
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#5: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:09:14 AM

^ Aw crap. In that light, I wonder if that's even picturable.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:11:15 AM

Maybe a shot of one of The Joker's victims?

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#7: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:20:40 AM

The first thing that came to mind is the title character from Mr Sardonicus. There's also Gwynplaine from The Man Who Laughs; a couple of examples

AceNoctali A lil' bentô ? from France Since: Nov, 2009
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#8: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:29:42 AM

Oooof, I'm taking back what I said. Mr Sardonicus looks perfect for this.

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:44:43 AM

Sardonicus would be good. The makeup on the rest of his face makes it pretty clear that it's the scarring that causes the fixed smile.

Jonah Hex (comic book version) might also work.

edited 19th Feb '11 9:47:05 AM by Madrugada

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#10: Feb 19th 2011 at 11:13:56 AM

I like Sardonicus. It just looks like this trope.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#11: Feb 19th 2011 at 1:14:44 PM

Ah, people are putting up the examples quickly. I was going to suggest The Man Who Laughs, who was also an inspiration for The Joker.

I think Mr. Sardonicus is pretty great, though. The Man Who Laughs (and, often, The Joker) looks like he might be able to change his face, but it's pretty obvious that Sardonicus can't.

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#12: Feb 19th 2011 at 1:40:17 PM

Ew, Sardonicus creeps me out. surprised

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#13: Feb 19th 2011 at 2:20:30 PM

Gwynplaine can't change his face, though, or at least he can't change his mouth, just like Sardonicus. I actually like him a little better since the pics show that he can't move his mouth even though he can show emotion.

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#14: Feb 22nd 2011 at 4:26:30 PM

bumpage.

Yeah, Sardonicus is creepy, but I doubt we're going to find a good pic for this one that's not creepy, and he's certainly functional.

edited 30th Mar '11 6:39:19 PM by Gilphon

EgregiousEric from space (I am from space) Since: Jun, 2009
#15: Feb 22nd 2011 at 5:53:02 PM

I prefer the Gwynplaine images because they show he probably wants to have a different expression.

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#16: Feb 22nd 2011 at 6:13:06 PM

Another reason I prefer the Gwynplaine pics is because the Sardonicus makeup is horribly fake-looking to me.

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#17: Feb 23rd 2011 at 6:39:47 AM

[up]Yeah, that occurred to me too. The Sardonicus image where you get a good look at him also gives you too good a look at him.

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IanExMachina The Paedofinder General from Gone with the Chickens Since: Jul, 2009
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#18: Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:02:41 AM

I like the Sardonicus image, and the make up doesn't look that bad.

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#19: Feb 25th 2011 at 12:35:15 AM

Not debating the need to change the image, though since Kyuubey otherwise fits the trope perfectly (his fixed expression, and how disturbing it is, is one of the most noticeable things about him) would it be possible to at least tweak the writeup a little so that it doesn't make such a point that it's specifically about humans? There've got to be plenty of other examples of nonhumans who don't change their expressions to the extent it becomes a thing, and it strikes me that it's otherwise a little narrow.

Probably talking about Weiss Kreuz.
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#20: Feb 25th 2011 at 12:36:58 AM

The trope isn't simply about not changing your expression. It's about being unable to change your expression.

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#21: Mar 30th 2011 at 11:05:52 AM

Sardonicus appears to have consensus...should we go ahead and use him?

Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#22: Mar 30th 2011 at 11:34:20 AM

Though I love the Sardonicus image I think the second Man Who Laughs One actually shows it can't be changed. It's the eyebrows, whereas the Sardonicus one... could just be really happy in a surreal kind of way.

[/repeats what everybody else has been saying]

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#23: Mar 30th 2011 at 11:37:22 AM

I had thought about making a collage of the Gwynplaine pics...I may still do that if I get time tonight.

SemiCasualObserver That Guy from Someplace Since: Oct, 2010
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#24: Mar 30th 2011 at 3:10:47 PM

I'd go with Sardonicus over Gwyplaine, because it's not obvious from the images that Gwyplaine doesn't just have an ordinary creepy grin for some reason.

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#25: Mar 30th 2011 at 6:03:58 PM

Hmmmm...yeah, that's a good point. Alright, Sardonicus it is.

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