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Since discussions of it are cropping up out of Tabletop Games, here's an all-purpose thread for players and GM's.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#301: May 15th 2011 at 8:04:19 PM

Oh, I'll minmax. I'll minmax.

Hmmm... crap, I refuse to play a CoDzilla. Hmmm... maybe a Swordsage...

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#302: May 15th 2011 at 8:10:08 PM

Yes. Do it. DO IT.

If and when I eventually get it up running, I'll encourage melee classes to look for homebrewed variants, just so they have a chance of surviving.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#303: May 15th 2011 at 8:11:53 PM

Swordsages are introduced in Tome of Battle. You can replace maneuvers known with spells, meaning that it's possible to know spells that function more like 4E "encounter" powers.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#304: May 15th 2011 at 8:13:04 PM

They'll need more power, Tomu.

You will very rarely get a chance to sleep for 8 hours.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#305: May 15th 2011 at 8:19:23 PM

I think you mean "five minutes."

If that.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#306: May 15th 2011 at 8:20:26 PM

Not for Wizards.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#308: May 15th 2011 at 8:23:16 PM

Swordsages are set, if they survive against the things I throw at them (Vampires, for example.) Which is one melee class, hurrah.

Wizards, on the other hand...

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#309: May 15th 2011 at 8:26:01 PM

We're gonna need a cleric then. Death Ward is essential, and it ain' covered by swordsages :/

What are we talking gear wise?

Ability scores?

edited 15th May '11 8:26:30 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#310: May 15th 2011 at 8:57:20 PM

Ability scores, might as well go roll 5d6, drop the lowest 2. Gear, double the regular cost for 10th level characters.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#311: May 15th 2011 at 9:05:16 PM

What, no point buy?

Alright, so, how do we roll stats then? I imagine you want em kosher.

Double the regular cost? Or double the regular starting gold? I AM CONFUSED!

edited 15th May '11 9:05:37 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#312: May 15th 2011 at 9:08:15 PM

No point buy, I'd probably be too stingy. Plus, this way's more random.

Double the regular starting gold, essentially, but I'm assuming you don't want to carry gold with you in a place with no shops.

I'm also going to ignore weight limits ;)

You roll 5d6, then take the 3 highest numbers as your stats. Like, if you roll 6 5 5 2 1, you'd have a 16.

edited 15th May '11 9:09:01 PM by CyganAngel

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#313: May 15th 2011 at 9:13:02 PM

I'm aware-I'm asking how to verify our rolls. Otherwise "I just got all 18s"

I'm used to, what, 22 point buy?

edited 15th May '11 9:13:23 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#314: May 15th 2011 at 9:15:26 PM

... Gah. Gimme a sec.

Here you go. If you sign up, it records your rolls for me to see.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#315: May 15th 2011 at 9:17:21 PM

Rightio. I'm still contemplating between either

A.) Wizard 4/Swordsage 2/Jade Phoenix Mage 4 OR B.) Swordsage 10

Decisions decisions...

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#316: May 15th 2011 at 9:19:06 PM

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3026809/

Meh. Nothing over a 15. I miss point buy. Hmmm...

Still, the stats are really well balanced, which probably has a greater net payoff.

Heh. 35 point buy, but no amazing stats. Well, high Dex + Wisdom + Intelligence + Constitution will seriously pay off. Hmmmm...

edited 15th May '11 9:21:39 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#317: May 15th 2011 at 9:20:37 PM

I dunno. I could give you Point Buy, or I could let you subtract points from weaker stats and add to stronger ones, or I could give you extra AP, or somethin', but I dunno.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#318: May 15th 2011 at 9:22:17 PM

I'll keep this build. No stat is useless (except charisma), so it's not like I'm not getting any bang for my buck.

Man, I used to be such a master of knowing what page every last reference was on. But it's been way too long.

edited 15th May '11 9:24:05 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#319: May 15th 2011 at 9:25:38 PM

Gotcha.

I'm at school at the moment, but I'll likely start a thread for it in Covens when I get home.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#320: May 15th 2011 at 9:26:35 PM

Let... us... see.

98,000 gold pieces it is.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#321: May 15th 2011 at 9:28:06 PM

Good.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#322: May 15th 2011 at 9:49:31 PM

Yeah. Though I warn you, Swordmages using the arcane casting in place of maneuvers variant are probably more OP Than CoDzilla's in some ways :P

No divine favor though, so that's a plus.

edited 15th May '11 9:49:41 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#323: May 15th 2011 at 9:50:25 PM

That's fine, I can call in OP monsters too.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#324: May 15th 2011 at 9:53:12 PM

Well, yeah, but if I'm the only OP one...

After all: Infinite heals if I play a Warforged :D

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#325: May 15th 2011 at 9:55:08 PM

Good luck healing from a Disintegrate.

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