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collex Since: Jan, 2010
#1: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:00:49 PM

So, I went on the page for Evil Chancellor and saw that the page image was changed a week ago, from a picture of Chancellor Palpatine in Star Wars to a picture of Jafar, but I can't find any Image Pickin' thread related to it. Was this a change decided here or not?

If not, do we want to keep this picture, revert to the ancient one or find another?

I find that both border on JAFACC a bit, but the character are very well-known so it could work. But more idea would be great.

marheavenangel89 Captain Mimi from TEXAS!!!! Since: Mar, 2010
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#2: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:06:19 PM

[up] Not that I'm aware of, it could be possible that some newer member did it without knowing that generally they should ask to change an image.

But yeah, the Star Wars example is FAR more iconic and famous, don't know why it would be changed.

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#3: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:08:11 PM

ummm Changed without a note or anything? (they tried to link a script and then a Photobucket so its obviously a newbie)... That being said we can do better.

edited 14th Feb '11 10:09:19 PM by Raso

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marheavenangel89 Captain Mimi from TEXAS!!!! Since: Mar, 2010
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#4: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:11:32 PM

As cool as Jafar is (he's one of my favorite disney villains), I still think the Star Wars original example is the most famous example. However, we'll let the public decide on this. Power to the tropers.

Yeah, most definitely a newb.

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collex Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:17:09 PM

My only problem with the Star Wars one is that I had a hard time recognizing the character the first time I saw him. For one thing, I don't remember Palpatine ever wearing red and black in any of the movies. His chancellor garnment where more blue and black. So the character is the good example, but the image is bad

Thinking about it, the best image would probably if you saw the evil chancellor with the actual ruler. Maybe this one? Grima is Obviously Evil and Thedon has a crown, marking him as a obvious king.

edited 14th Feb '11 10:21:04 PM by collex

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Feb 14th 2011 at 11:54:12 PM

I like Raso's Palpatine.

I do think I should go take a chainsaw to the description though.

edited 14th Feb '11 11:54:51 PM by Deboss

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#7: Feb 14th 2011 at 11:56:12 PM

[up]That pic was what was up there previously, and the Jafar was what replaced it.

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marheavenangel89 Captain Mimi from TEXAS!!!! Since: Mar, 2010
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#8: Feb 15th 2011 at 12:04:04 AM

THAT SKETCH is what REPLACED IT?!

Ok...if you're gonna take something off and replace it with something else....the newb couldn't find a better picture of Jafar? There should be tones on Photobucket or google image?!?

Gah....I still like the original the best. Unless something better is suggested.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Feb 15th 2011 at 12:16:15 AM

Trimmed the description down. Still kind of long, but I'm not sure what else to delete.

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#10: Feb 15th 2011 at 4:00:32 AM

I'm good with Raso's Palpatine.

Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#11: Feb 15th 2011 at 5:27:49 AM

I think the Star Wars picture is a bit better. But it is JAFAAC too. I know people tend to think: "Oh, it is from Star Wars, so everybody has to know it."

But not everything Star Wars related is on "The List"

I never watched one of the Star Wars movies. I know Darth Vader, I know that he is Lukes father, they fight with light sabers ...But I have absolutly no idea who this Palpatine guy is.

edited 15th Feb '11 5:31:13 AM by Osmium

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#12: Feb 15th 2011 at 7:16:41 AM

That the image was initially replaced with an image on photobucket rather than one uploaded to TV Tropes reflects poorly on the judgement with which it was replaced.

In any case, though, the former Palpatine image doesn't even look like Palpatine. Perhaps a screenshot of him from before he was emperor would be better?

Or alternatively, if we're going for Jafar, here's a bunch of pictures of him from the Neutral Evil thread.

Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#13: Feb 15th 2011 at 7:22:47 AM

I like the concept of this, but the quality is way to low.

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#14: Feb 15th 2011 at 8:44:13 AM

I am against an image of Palpatine actually. Coz most people think of him as "The Emperor" or "Corrupt boss of the republic"

His role as "Corrupt assistant to a ruler trying to subvert him and take over" is far less known (occurring really only in episode 1) and not even close to what most people think

Jafar however fits the trope much more closely (though the current image is shit). I like the picture of him with the sultan.

Another Jafar images:

Hypnotize the Sultan till you can sit on the throne

I also like this one

edited 15th Feb '11 8:45:04 AM by Ghilz

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#15: Feb 15th 2011 at 8:46:50 AM

The Pope has screenshoted Aladdin in the past. He might be able to get some better quality stills. The images themselves seem indicative, but they are really pixilated.

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#16: Feb 15th 2011 at 9:27:36 AM

[up][up] Ooh, I like that second one.

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#17: Feb 15th 2011 at 9:54:38 AM

Either of those last two would be nice, provided the second can be done in better quality.

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collex Since: Jan, 2010
#19: Feb 15th 2011 at 12:21:46 PM

It seems to have been forgotten, but what about the Grima one I posted a while above (maybe fourth or fifth post) Anyone likes it? No?

I like the Jafar ones, but in better quality

Kersey475 Since: Nov, 2009
#20: Feb 15th 2011 at 2:43:53 PM

A agree that a picture of Jafar near the Sultan would be a better image for this trope. Palpatine's picture was more of Face And A Caption but Jafar's picture fits the trope perfectly, an Obviously Evil person giving advice to a ruler.

Another question, which variation of this trope does it count as if the head advisor/vice ruler is a Reasonable Authority Figure and the actual ruler itself is The Chamberlain?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#21: Feb 15th 2011 at 3:00:16 PM

I'd prefer to see the Sultan on top of the throne, because then we get to see he's supposed to be in charge.

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#22: Feb 15th 2011 at 7:07:15 PM

"I'd prefer to see the Sultan on top of the throne, because then we get to see he's supposed to be in charge." - Deboss

You mean, like the one Osmium mentioned except higher-quality?

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#23: Feb 15th 2011 at 7:08:01 PM

Osmium's would be awesome if we could get a better quality version.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#24: Feb 15th 2011 at 7:40:33 PM

Yeah, it's just not a great quality image.

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Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#25: Feb 16th 2011 at 11:24:59 PM

I have the DVD, so I grabbed the frames in question.

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