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Gaunt88 from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#401: Mar 1st 2011 at 3:42:39 PM

Maybe there was some sort of climate shift or natural disaster elswhere, and one tribe of birds had to migrate into the weasel's territory to survive.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#402: Mar 1st 2011 at 5:05:54 PM

Sounds good to me. Anyone have any other suggestions?

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Funnyguts Since: Sep, 2010
#403: Mar 1st 2011 at 5:09:22 PM

^^I'd think that the weasels would be more likely to move into where the eagles are, considering that the weasels seem to be the dominant species...

AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#404: Mar 1st 2011 at 5:58:56 PM

Well since they're the dominant species maybe they didn't move in because they're already so prolific?

Maybe instead of our problems with Global Warming they're going through a mini-ice age. The bird-race would live higher up in the mountains but be forced down by cooling so they could still hunt as water ways would have frozen killing off various fish species and forcing the bird-race to hunt elsewhere.

The conflict could come from that, the wahnans/wawnans/weasel-things (seriously we need to pick D:) disapprove of hunting in their territory and so the bird-race harries them to try and get some for themselves. And maybe baby wahnan's just happen to taste good.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#405: Mar 1st 2011 at 6:35:39 PM

I like wahnans.

And I like the birds being forced out of their territory due to climate problems, and having to move into Wahnan territory to survive.

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#406: Mar 1st 2011 at 8:26:04 PM

How long ago did this migration take place?

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#407: Mar 1st 2011 at 8:49:43 PM

Maybe... a decade and a half ago?

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#408: Mar 2nd 2011 at 11:09:39 PM

Or less? >_>

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Funnyguts Since: Sep, 2010
#409: Mar 3rd 2011 at 5:22:23 AM

Well, I'm now curious to what seasons are like on the planet. Knowing that can help us make more sense of the above issue, I think.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#410: Mar 3rd 2011 at 5:28:24 AM

I'd love to help, but I'm heading to bed.

Discuss amongst yourselves. 10 points for whoever comes up with the best answer.

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#411: Mar 3rd 2011 at 8:51:25 AM

Well depends on the world, we could give the planet a severe axial tilt which would A) create less area to actually live on and B) make seasons more extreme at certain points.

If we had it at say a 90 degree tilt on an circular orbit certain points would be like here except it would experience a polar twilight (so 24 hour sun) and have freezing winters and hot summers. Actual polar living would be hard for these aliens, the summer would be hot enough to melt metal so we'll avoid that.

Now in polar twilight you still have four season, summer is hot and winter is freezing while spring and autumn are comparable to a (northern Canadian) spring and autumn, so wet and comparably mild. Note that the summer here is not a tundra-like summer unlike the autumn and spring. Tundra summers are 10 Celsius on average and can drop drastically, these summers are hot.

For more information I suggest the very helpful World Building pieces by kassyopeia planetary habitability for those interested.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#412: Mar 3rd 2011 at 10:08:43 PM

I say we go for it >_>

/didn't understand a thing

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#413: Mar 4th 2011 at 4:35:26 AM

Any way I can explain it better for you? It feels like everyone should know what's going on.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#414: Mar 4th 2011 at 3:05:39 PM

Use little words >_>

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#415: Mar 4th 2011 at 7:26:31 PM

Haha, fair enough. XD

So, if this planet travels around the sun in a circle and has an axis tilt (the position the planet rotates on) of 90 degrees there will be four seasons in the "twilight band" AKA the equator, while the actual poles will be too extreme to survive in.

Summer will be hothothot, winter coldcoldcold and spring and fall mild but pleasant and fairly short. They will all happen once a year. The place will have a 24 sun, so that there is never complete darkness. So no nocturnal animals in that world.

Better? I some times take for granted people know what I'm talking about, I'm the art student who's friends with a theoretical mathematician, a theoretical chemist and a metaphysics student. /neverknowswhat'sgoingonbecausemathandsiencenerdsarebadatcommunication.

edited 4th Mar '11 7:27:35 PM by AwayLaughing

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#416: Mar 4th 2011 at 8:07:59 PM

Okay. I thin I understand.

So, was the planet always tilted, or did it recently tilt?

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Funnyguts Since: Sep, 2010
#417: Mar 4th 2011 at 8:23:31 PM

Well, the most likely cause of planetary tilt is a major hit from an asteroid or other object, so it can't have been too recent.

edited 4th Mar '11 8:23:47 PM by Funnyguts

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#418: Mar 4th 2011 at 8:29:23 PM

Or, y'know, magic, but I don't think we want to take that route.

Anyway... Okay then. We need to figure out 2 things:

1. Why the climate shifted, resulting in it being even colder:

2. How they manage to sleep with the sun always shining.

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#419: Mar 5th 2011 at 7:10:38 AM

2. Well, it does dip below the horizon, it's just never completely dark. They'd probably build to keep the sun out during certain hours, northern peoples (on Earth) do it all the time, they should be fine.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#420: Mar 5th 2011 at 4:52:06 PM

Ah. That makes sense.

But for races that can't build, like the birds?

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#421: Mar 5th 2011 at 5:03:42 PM

They've developed two sets of eyelids to help better block out light! Or something

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#422: Mar 5th 2011 at 5:17:09 PM

Okay. 's long as we can handwave it.

How's bout the other question? :/

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AwayLaughing Away from North of Broadway (Seven Years' War) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#423: Mar 5th 2011 at 7:26:34 PM

Well, in the 19th century some Scandinavian scientists observed mini-ice ages in Scandinavia, Russia and Canada. They argued that this was caused by extremely slight "wobbles" in the earth's orbit. So this planet's orbit could have "wobbled" slightly away from the sun causing glaciation in the northern parts of the twilight band and therefor lowering global temperatures.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#424: Mar 5th 2011 at 11:35:10 PM

Like jelly.

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