YMMV is remove-on-sight from works pages. It is indeed Word Cruft when used in examples. Ironically, the page itself tells people not to use it in that manner. So this is a problem with tropers, not with the article. Anyway, we have a whole project right now to properly classify tropes vs. opinions and move them to the proper places.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Going to regret this but I'm too bloody stupid. What exactly is the prevailing attitude toward the YMMV content? Is it valuable information that needs to be re-organized or garbage being tossed in the dumpster? If you contribute to a YMMV page, beyond moving the existing stuff, are you an unwanted bad troper for fucking up the wiki with your stupid opinions?
Do we want YMMV material, not on the main pages but in a proper place, as part of the greater "concepts we catalog" on TV Tropes? Or do we not want any of it, at all, and the YMMV pages are a concession to...somebody for some reason?
But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.We are willing to accept YMMV material in the recognition that yes, people have opinions about works and those are relevant to the work for many people. However, it is not part of the core mission of the wiki, which is to catalog tropes. We are therefore segregating this material so that those who wish to consume/participate in it may do so, while those who do not can ignore it. We have no intention of removing YMMV material from the wiki entirely unless it becomes so laden with natter and Flame Bait that it actively impedes the mission - thus, the recent push to remove all Pot Holes and wicks to So Bad Its Horrible.
Basically, it's up to the general troper body how much YMMV material stays and how much goes. If you treat it responsibly, great! If not, well, this is Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things.
edited 11th Feb '11 1:48:06 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Alright, thank you. I had seen a considerable amount of hostility towards the subjective stuff, I wasn't sure if "Opinions do matter to a work" was held in the same regard as "I WANT TO RAGE ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE _____" or "I FUCKING GET TO CUSS EVERY FUCKING THIRD WORD BECAUSE THIS ISN'T FUCKING WIKIPEDIA".
But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.The former is fine. Any of the latter can be deleted on sight from articles. And report its perpetrators on Ask The Tropers so they can be banned.
edited 11th Feb '11 4:37:55 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

First off, it's kind of a People Sit On Chairs trope. Of course various people can and will have various different opinions on a work. This should go without saying.
Second it just seems to invite natter and arguments on the main page("Your Mileage May Vary on that, because this troper thought that Lelouch's actions were clearly...). Now that we have subjective pages, we have a tool to warn people that the examples contained often depend on your point of view. When it appears on the trope list for a work, it usually just warns people that the work is controversial, which Love It or Hate It already does.
Sorry if I accidentally broke any rules or put this in the wrong place, I'm not very familiar with the left side of the fora.
edited 10th Feb '11 5:42:27 AM by Myrmidon
Kill all math nerds