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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#101: Sep 30th 2011 at 6:08:34 AM

So, are they restarting civilization or what?

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#102: Sep 30th 2011 at 6:27:25 AM

They are restarting civilization because we fucked up Earth once. Gives us a second chance by going back in time.

And I'm surprised by all the complaints from just two episodes. Well, not really surprised as.....honestly, this should have been expected. People love to bitch.

Tyyrlym Jerk from Normandy SR-2 Since: Mar, 2011
Jerk
#103: Sep 30th 2011 at 6:36:20 AM

Yes, large dinosaurs could trample crops. I really wish I'd mentioned something about putting a fence around the.

The dinosaurs who would be interested in the plants could easily be kept out by a much smaller fence. You don't need a fence big enough to keep a Tyrannosaur out, you just need one to keep out the low level grazers. Hell you wouldn't even need a fence to do that, dig a ten foot deep moat and you're good to go.
Oh, I guess I did.

I do see the issue with the wall not keeping out smaller predators (DIG A FUCKING DITCH!) but after seven years living here I'm willing to bet that if smaller predators were a serious issue then they'd have done something about it.

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
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#104: Sep 30th 2011 at 8:33:17 AM

[up][up]Well, my only gripe is that the main characters are very unlikable. The best is probably the nerdy daughter, and she's an annoying Lisa Simpson-type. Taylor is cool though, they should have him be the focal character.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#105: Sep 30th 2011 at 3:49:20 PM

Agreed, Firebert, Taylor should be the focal character.

MyGodItsFullofStars Since: Feb, 2011
#106: Sep 30th 2011 at 5:19:46 PM

^Eh, I think that Doctor Mom is a pretty cool character so far too, along with the geeky daughter. Husband's too quite, teen boy's too annoying, little girl smells like "gets kidnapped/attacked by dinosaurs once a week" character to me.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#107: Sep 30th 2011 at 8:27:44 PM

They should have a cell phone/radio equivalent at all times, because it should be natural to do that instead of having to run off and fetch a doctor and any number of a dozen other things people use their cell phones for. I don't think it's unreasonable to send people to a new location with some method of individually man portable wireless communication device. It actually seems like one of the top five things you'd have them bring. Leave the family photos and the personal effects, take the fucking communicator.

I do see the issue with the wall not keeping out smaller predators (DIG A FUCKING DITCH!) but after seven years living here I'm willing to bet that if smaller predators were a serious issue then they'd have done something about it.

Unless it so happens that we'll have an episode where smaller predators get in and that's the Aesop. I don't mind them setting up something up, I have a problem with setting it up in a way that requires people being dumb for a long time and then when the stars get there is when everything goes to shit just so we can see the stars fix it all. Digging a ditch and then turning the dirt into a wall would be the best solution, but would prevent easy passage in and out at any point for characters getting up to mischief.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#108: Sep 30th 2011 at 10:23:55 PM

Picture.

Okay, it was a lot bigger than I remembered for some reason. At the entrance by the road, we've got the main house and main gateway. At the back they have big honkin' wind turbines (which annoys me somewhat, they got the turbines through the portal but couldn't move better wall construction material? Carbon fiber or plastic isn't something you whip up out of dirt.) and enough that they could have more than enough to power some equipment (assuming they have enough batteries to load level properly). The farmland all appears to be developed, however one pizza slice doesn't look to be growing right, it's most likely a section that is about to be planted.

If the entrance is 6, the little girl said hello to the long neck herbivores at 9, which gives an approximation of their house location. I still dislike the suburbia design of their houses, too much wasted space for a group that's supposed to be putting effort into survival. Even assuming you want a single story, spread out houses for some reason, they're far too spacious if the families are supposed to be working all day.

The turbines have some kind of small squat structures near them. Most likely factories or possibly some sort of water purification center (what with being next to the lake and all). Probably textiles.

edited 30th Sep '11 10:24:56 PM by Deboss

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Tyyrlym Jerk from Normandy SR-2 Since: Mar, 2011
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#109: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:49:59 AM

Agreed, Firebert, Taylor should be the focal character.
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They should have a cell phone/radio equivalent at all times, because it should be natural to do that instead of having to run off and fetch a doctor and any number of a dozen other things people use their cell phones for. I don't think it's unreasonable to send people to a new location with some method of individually man portable wireless communication device. It actually seems like one of the top five things you'd have them bring. Leave the family photos and the personal effects, take the fucking communicator.
This I agree with. Given how supposedly important Terra Nova is why isn't everyone walking around with some kind of personal communications device?

At the back they have big honkin' wind turbines (which annoys me somewhat, they got the turbines through the portal but couldn't move better wall construction material? Carbon fiber or plastic isn't something you whip up out of dirt.)
Agreed, of all the ways to make electricity they've gone with the way that is probably the least plausible in this setting. I know it meshes nicely with the green aesop they're shooting for but solar panels make a bit more sense and could still be "green".

I still dislike the suburbia design of their houses, too much wasted space for a group that's supposed to be putting effort into survival.
I'm sort of ambivalent to the houses. They could be made from local materials easy enough and I'm not really seeing them as a self sufficent colony. They've got too much high tech stuff to really be making a go at self sufficency. So I can accept they might have more people than normal assigned to building nicer houses than you'd expect. Then again if they turn out to be airconditioned with lots of lighting and other things I'll change my tune.

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TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#110: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:47:50 PM

I saw a large portion of the two-part episode of Terra Nova, and I think this is going to be interesting. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only who thought Jurassic Park upon seeing this show. Well, at least the humans in this show have weapons to ward off these dinosaurs.

I'm curious to see what direction the show will go in. Let's see, Taylor's son is apparently alive and hiding somewhere. That brings up the question of why he hasn't shown his face. I wonder what the Sixers are trying to accomplish. I could tell that there is some history between Mira and Taylor. I was a little surprised that the show did a rather obvious Black Dude Dies First when the black Sixer got sliced by a slashtail.

Say, did you know that "Terra Nova" translates to "New Earth"?

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TheDeadMansLife Lover of masks. Since: Nov, 2009
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#111: Oct 1st 2011 at 5:47:29 PM

Say, did you know that "Terra Nova" translates to "New Earth"?

(⊙▂⊙) No. Fucking. Way. :)

Edit:That was sarcasm for the record. :)

edited 1st Oct '11 5:48:06 PM by TheDeadMansLife

Please.
Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#112: Oct 1st 2011 at 6:37:19 PM

Yes, please ignore the use of sarcasm mode in the future, as it's quite over used.

edited 1st Oct '11 6:38:17 PM by Pyroninja42

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#113: Oct 1st 2011 at 6:56:09 PM

Depends on how we want to define self sufficiency. If you really wanted to, I bet you could build a 3D/circuit printer that can process raw sand and heavy metals to turn into integrated circuits. Not that they should have to build that many mind you, they should be carrying high durability units through the gates.

I have less a problem with windmills in general, and more of a problem with the fact that they used modern style power generating windmills. An old school pump windmill that is hooked up to a water tower that drains through a turbine would make a lot more sense to me. Or failing that, an actual mill. I think they mentioned having to start a water turbine in the lake/waterfall/somewhere.

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Jergling Since: Apr, 2011
#114: Oct 1st 2011 at 7:09:06 PM

Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

No.

There are people who actually like this show? Please tell me this is an ironic hipster thing. I was going to post a play-by-play of everything that went wrong in the 30 minutes that I saw of a two hour episode, but I just have to know, what redeeming qualities does Terra Nova have?

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#115: Oct 1st 2011 at 7:16:11 PM

[up] Colonel Avatar kicking dinosaur butt?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#116: Oct 1st 2011 at 7:35:55 PM

It looks fun. Just because there's issues, doesn't mean it's something irredeemably horrible like Shakespeare or the X Movie series.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#117: Oct 1st 2011 at 7:58:12 PM

Jergling: yeah, I liked it. What of it, son?

Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#118: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:09:37 PM

I think we're all in agreement, though, that the entire main family needs to die horribly. Something shocking, preferably. Like meningitis.

"Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person that doesn't get it."
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#119: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:14:19 PM

Agreed. Axe all the characters except Taylor, and make it a series about one man versus the prehistoric world.

So it can be Quaritch: The Series.

Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#120: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:20:44 PM

And they can make it DEEP by giving him...

SURVIVOR'S GUILT.

And then it can have a spin-off reality show, Survivor: Terra Nova. Spoiler: Everyone's eaten by dinosaurs by the end of the first episode.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#121: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:25:21 PM

Honestly, I'd watch a faux-reality show about contestants surviving on an island that resembles Catachan.

Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#122: Oct 1st 2011 at 8:31:38 PM

That's the second time in ten minutes you've mentioned Catachan.

To be honest, a Survivor series set in Warhammer 40k would be hilarious.

Survivor: Immaterium

Survivor: Armageddon

Survivor: Forge World

Survivor: Catachan

Survivor: Cadian Gate During The Black Crusade

Survivor: Commorragh

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#123: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:21:27 PM

wild mass guessThe main family is slowly picked off in front of Taylor, culminating in a Roaring Rampage of Revenge for him.wild mass guess (Please?)

[up]Those would be pretty short series. [lol]

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#124: Oct 2nd 2011 at 2:49:14 AM

Just watching now, looks good.

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Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
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#125: Oct 2nd 2011 at 6:12:12 AM

Just saw the pilot. Overall, not the greatest piece of television, but I actually watched it, which is rare. Some good potential for growth.

I like the ideas about the Sixers, though I already had my own theory: there's some sinister motive behind Terra Nova that Taylor may or may not know about, and the Sixers manipulated the lotteries in order to go back and stop it.

And I was VERY disappointed to find out the stone drawings weren't made by aliens.

Also, anyone else notice that the kids get progressively more ethnic the younger they are?

It's not over. Not yet.

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