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PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#3676: Jul 23rd 2024 at 6:32:42 PM

[up][up][up]Then don't pretend you're killing them off in the first place.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3677: Jul 23rd 2024 at 6:36:35 PM

Eh. Making everyone invincible makes the storytelling rather toothless, in my opinion. It may not stick, but characters can still be affected within the context of each game as is.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#3678: Jul 23rd 2024 at 6:58:01 PM

Cheap resurrections also make things toothless.

Look, maybe it works for you, but at this point I think I care less now for the stories in Tekken and Street Fighter than I did before.

It's kind of funny, one of Tekken's most successful instalments replaced most of the cast, and was actually lauded for taking such a courageous step to move the story forward.

Although they've undone all of that by now.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3679: Jul 23rd 2024 at 7:15:13 PM

Eh. The story serves the games, not the other way around. Ultimately, the fighting part is what matters and everyone wants their favorite.

The only exception I can think of is Guilty Gear. Kliff and Justice are still dead. Even when Justice "came back," it was in a way that was far from playable. Although Justice might be returning in a fashion with one of the new characters showing suspicious parallels.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3680: Jul 23rd 2024 at 11:41:01 PM

And wasn't an issue with Street Fighter that after Bison was defeated in 2 that they wouldn't advance the story timeline, instead doing later games that take place before his defeat so he could be involved?

Not exactly? The only SF game set before 2 is Alpha, and Alpha's plot eventually ended up being more or less a retelling-of-the-basic-story-that's-technically-a-separate-story.

It's less that Alpha avoids Bison's defeat as much it kind of shunts II's story a ways to the side. The game that it took several games for them to move the timeline past was SF 3.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 23rd 2024 at 11:42:25 AM

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#3681: Jul 24th 2024 at 7:45:47 AM

Maybe the best thing to do is reboot the settings every so often like MK is doing.

Then you still can do storylines where the stakes are not hampered by resurrections, but you also can bring characters back every so often.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
GoldenDarkness Since: Jan, 2001
#3682: Jul 24th 2024 at 10:33:57 AM

It's sorta like Marvel / DC comics in the way that neither heroes nor the villains can be permanently killed/changed/switch sides or other deviations from the status quo.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#3683: Aug 27th 2024 at 7:39:51 AM

Capcom is putting out another collection, this time with the Capcom vs SNK games, Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper, Plasma Sword, Project Justice and the Power Stone games.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 27th 2024 at 8:18:40 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#3684: Aug 27th 2024 at 8:32:05 AM

Whelp. I didn't have Project Justice or Power Stone in my (nonexistent) bingo card.

Here's hoping the social media lurkers who have been begging for more Rival Schools and Power Stone are ready to put their money where their mouths are!

(Actually wait, this has the second Rival Schools game, but not the first one? What's up with that?)

Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#3685: Aug 27th 2024 at 8:44:31 AM

[up]The original Star Gladiator is also not on there. Maybe they are waiting for a volume three. Is there any fighting games besides Rival Schools, Star Gladiator, and Tech Romancer from Capcom not in a collection yet?

ChicoTheParakeet Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#3686: Aug 27th 2024 at 8:53:06 AM

Power Stone and Rival Schools caught my eye but the rest doesn’t interest me. Is it worth the investment or do I wait for a sale?

Are the missing titles like Street Fighter where Capcom didn’t find their groove yet?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3687: Aug 27th 2024 at 9:31:23 AM

Capcom vs SNK 2 is only my all time favorite fighting game. I gotta get this.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3688: Aug 27th 2024 at 9:46:10 AM

Project Justice and Plasma Sword are both Dreamcast games which the rest of this collection is running on, whereas Rival Schools and Star Gladiator were Playstation games. I'm assuming they wanted to use the same engine for these games for simplicity's sake.

Edited by Nap1100 on Aug 27th 2024 at 9:46:21 AM

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#3689: Aug 27th 2024 at 10:19:44 AM

I hope they keep in the roll glitch for CvS2.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3690: Aug 27th 2024 at 11:47:53 AM

Reportedly they have both the version with Roll Canceling and the version without it, and you can select which on the EX settings.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3691: Aug 27th 2024 at 12:00:00 PM

Never thought I'd see Power Stone 1 and 2 in a collection.

Then again, I never thought I'd see Project Justice (but just Project Justice) in a collection either.

Interesting timing, considering we got Akira in SF 5 a few years back.

Hmm....

One Strip! One Strip!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#3692: Aug 27th 2024 at 12:02:18 PM

[up]Both games were released on the PSP in 2006 in Power Stone Collection.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#3693: Aug 27th 2024 at 1:39:44 PM

I heard the reason we don't have Rival Schools yet is some licensing issues

Uni cat
PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#3694: Aug 27th 2024 at 1:41:40 PM

Ah, now more people can be introduced to Ingrid.

Capcom should put her in Street Fighter 6.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#3695: Aug 27th 2024 at 1:50:45 PM

The official website says that certain transformations from Midnight Bliss in CFE. It's unclear if that refers to the extremely skimpy ones, the racebending ones, or both.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
omega2900 Jemerald of Brainrot from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
Jemerald of Brainrot
#3696: Aug 27th 2024 at 2:10:57 PM

I’m a bit conflicted on CFE being in this collection.

On one hand, it’s nice that there’s a modern way to play for the purpose of preservation. On the other hand, were people really clamoring for a re-release?

Get taxed. Idiot.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#3697: Aug 27th 2024 at 3:22:42 PM

[up][up]People think it’s the fairly explicit Jo Jo reference in one of them that’s being removed for legal reasons.

[up]It’s the game equivalent of filler to pad out the collection.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 27th 2024 at 3:23:13 AM

omega2900 Jemerald of Brainrot from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
Jemerald of Brainrot
#3698: Aug 27th 2024 at 4:49:34 PM

Aren't both of Rose's transformations just Jojo characters?

Regular is Lisa Lisa and the rare one is Enya.

Get taxed. Idiot.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3699: Aug 27th 2024 at 4:49:59 PM

THE RETURN OF CVS 2.

Also, I only ever got the chance to play Power Stone exactly once growing up, and I was fascinating by what I got to experience. It'll be fun to finally be able to play it again.

Next year, anyways... sad

ChicoTheParakeet Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#3700: Aug 27th 2024 at 5:37:21 PM

I don't know who was clamouring for a rerelease but I'm down for legal access to old games. No matter how you look at it, there's filler; a method for AAA companies to increase the price. Hopefully, it all seems to work well and justify its inclusion.

Edited by ChicoTheParakeet on Aug 27th 2024 at 8:38:39 AM


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