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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3226: Jun 24th 2022 at 6:17:18 PM

Got the Capcom Fighting Collection.

First impressions:

Red Earth is hard.

Gem Fighter is random

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 24th 2022 at 6:24:20 AM

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3227: Jun 24th 2022 at 10:48:45 PM

Gem Fighter feels like the kind of game you'd bring to a crowd of casual Smash players to get them into a similarly chaotic fighting game that nonetheless plays closer to something traditional. I'm curious what the competitive scene for a game like that even looks like.

Obviously the big winner of this collection is Vampire Savior, but that's nothing new considering V Sav is the biggest Cult Classic Capcom fighting game. The game I am most personally interested in learning after going through the collection though is Cyberbots. That game looks like it has some really neat ideas and has been overlooked for a long time.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3228: Jun 24th 2022 at 10:53:03 PM

I plan on playing Revenge and Savior quite a bit. I definitely want to have a go at Red Earth.

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#3229: Jun 24th 2022 at 11:30:08 PM

Hmmm maybe I should pick this up.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3230: Jun 26th 2022 at 6:53:04 AM

Red Earth is kinda weird cause the characters level up and you only get a good idea of how each one plays at level 32

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3231: Jun 26th 2022 at 7:11:44 PM

Is this game like a weird stealth-test to gauge interest in Darkstalkers? But they were afraid just "The Darkstalkers Collection" wouldn't sell so they threw in a few more games on top?

Edited by diddyknux on Jun 26th 2022 at 9:11:58 AM

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3232: Jun 26th 2022 at 7:34:13 PM

I mean it might or might not be. Matsumoto said that this game isn't being given the so-called "Capcom test" but I wouldn't be surprised if, should it do well, we might end up with either more rereleases (i.e. a 3D fighters compilation, more leverage for getting licenses like Marvel and Jojo's on board, etc.), or in best case scenario a new entry in one of the series represented.

From my personal experience, seems like the most popular games for online play are Hyper SF 2 (because of course), Vampire Savior, Puzzle Fighter, and Pocket Fighter. Cyberbots is a cool game but appeals to a very specific crowd, and Red Earth isn't really suited well for PVP because of the level up system and the fact that there are only 4 playable characters. And the rest of the Darkstalkers games barring maybe Hunter live in the shadow of Vampire Savior being one of the most beloved games of all time among the FGC diehards.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3233: Jun 30th 2022 at 12:48:35 PM

In honor pride month, SugarPunch Design Works and the 4thSnake look at some of their favorite LGBT and non-binary characters in fighting games. These include:

  • Poison (transgender woman) and Seth (non-binary android) from Street Fighter.

  • Ladiva and Cagliostro (both transgender women) from Granblue Fantasy Versus.

  • Kung Jin (gay man), Mileena and Tanya (bisexual women) from Mortal Kombat.

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#3234: Jun 30th 2022 at 1:07:31 PM

Don't forget Venom (Gay man), Bridget and Testament (Non-binary) from Guilty Gear too.

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omega2900 Jemerald of Brainrot from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#3235: Jun 30th 2022 at 1:10:14 PM

Is Bridget considered non-binary? I always thought he was just a guy forced to crossdress.

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
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#3236: Jun 30th 2022 at 1:20:51 PM

[up]Yea, in the video Bridget is explicitly counted as representation for male crossdressers, with emphasis that after leaving his village no one is actually forcing him anymore to wear female clothing but he does anyway.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jun 30th 2022 at 10:22:06 AM

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#3237: Jun 30th 2022 at 1:22:40 PM

Not mentioned in the video:

  • Any One Piece games (it has a few fighting games, they're just not good): Luffy (aroace), Mr 2 Bon Clay (bigender), Ivankov (genderfluid).

  • Any Jojo games: DIO (bisexual) and like, half of the cast (implied homosexual/bisexual).

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jun 30th 2022 at 1:23:48 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3238: Jun 30th 2022 at 1:41:47 PM

Those are manga franchises that just happened to get video game adaptations so I can see why they wouldn't qualify for the video.

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#3239: Jun 30th 2022 at 2:53:44 PM

Fair, but Granblue started as an RPG before getting made into a fighting game, and it also got an anime made about it before that fighting game, too.

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#3240: Jul 2nd 2022 at 5:39:58 PM

Are there any other characters with a wall run like Chipp in Guilty Gear Strive?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2022 at 6:05:25 AM

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#3241: Jul 2nd 2022 at 5:48:04 PM

Sonson from Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and El Fuerte from Street Fighter IV off the top of my head, though I'm sure there's more.

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#3242: Jul 2nd 2022 at 6:04:51 PM

El Fuerte's looks more like just a wall-jump, as opposed to a wall-run, though Sonson's is pretty much what I was thinking, albeit done completely differently from how Chipp does it.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 2nd 2022 at 6:05:04 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3243: Jul 2nd 2022 at 6:09:18 PM

I'm 70% sure there's at least one Darkstalkers character with a wall run of some kind, though my brain may be inventing that.

omega2900 Jemerald of Brainrot from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#3244: Jul 2nd 2022 at 6:20:17 PM

Felicia is the only Darkstakers character that comes to mind with something close to a wall run.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3245: Jul 2nd 2022 at 8:21:41 PM

She has a wall cling, not run like Strive Chipp.

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#3246: Jul 25th 2022 at 10:50:29 AM

Curious question: how do you utilize distance and spacing to become "plus"? I'm fairly aware of how the plus and minus frames system works but I haven't heard about becoming "plus" in that way.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#3247: Jul 25th 2022 at 11:00:51 AM

Usually that refers spacing an attack so it hits later in its active frames, for instance the difference between a fireball connecting point blank versus connecting when they're a character length away. In most fighting games, moves will always have a set amount of blockstun regardless of which active frame the attack connected on, so if a move has many active frames like a projectile or a traveling move, you can change whether the move ends up being safe or unsafe by hitting it at the later active frames to move the blockstun closer to when you're about to recover. For example, Bison's slide is active the entire period he travels on the ground. Hitting it point blank means he will continue sliding and be heavily punishable, but hitting it at the furthest possible distance means that he'll recover from the move before the opponent has left blockstun.

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#3248: Jul 25th 2022 at 1:15:19 PM

Also Genjuro from Samsho is bisexual.

omega2900 Jemerald of Brainrot from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#3250: Jul 31st 2022 at 1:04:35 PM

From Thorgi's Arcade comes the newest installment of Build The Roster; TMNT Tournament 2!

Not gonna lie, it's a pretty lit roster.

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