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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16526: May 28th 2025 at 2:09:40 PM

[up][up] Oh yeah, that's true. They also both give you the Moonlight Greatsword, so they're even better foils to each other.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16527: May 28th 2025 at 4:00:19 PM

Also, did you ever get Patches as a vendor in Firelink? I think I missed it if you did.

I did, though he and Greirat haven’t come back since I sent the latter to Lothric Castle…

As for Oceiros’ story… That’s a lot for an optional boss indeed. >.>

Not gonna open that spoiler about the twin demons for now. tongue

Edited by Lyendith on May 28th 2025 at 4:05:43 AM

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16528: May 28th 2025 at 4:28:36 PM

[up] You just need to do a bit of searching around Lothric for Greirat. Try the roof of the Grand Archives.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16529: May 29th 2025 at 4:16:28 PM

[up] Thanks. After killing just about everything that breathes in the Archives, farming enough souls for 3 or 4 levels of upgrade, killing 3 golden Winged Knights (wonder why they didn’t show up the last time I was on that roof…) and searching the roofs for a bit, I… found Greirat… Yep, find him I did. sad I was almost surprised to not find his stuff in Patches’ shop after that.

Speaking of shop, it’s a bit annoying that I found the ashes for every titanite type… except the lvl 7-to-9 ones. Thankfully I managed to farm just enough to upgrade the weapons I needed.

Got back to Oceiros after all that, this time with my sharpened dual dragon lances upgraded to the max! It did the job this time, though I sweated bullets when I just needed 2 more hits to kill him but my attacks kept whiffing. evil grin Let’s see what’s behind that door…

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16530: May 29th 2025 at 4:40:44 PM

[up] Patches does get one addition if he left to look for him, a Divine Blessing. It's the handmaiden who gets his wares once you turn in his ashes. tongue

The 7-9 ashes are in a place you haven't been yet. tongue

Edited by doineedaname on May 29th 2025 at 7:41:59 AM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16531: May 29th 2025 at 5:00:33 PM

Well that’s good to know. tongue

Also the Firekeeper did a little twirl when I did the "cheers" emote, that’s too precious. [lol]

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16532: May 30th 2025 at 3:14:10 PM

So turns out the door in Oceiros’ boss room led to the start of the game, in the… past? With a slightly beefier version of Gundyr, a pair of eyes, and the old lady who’s already there all alone for some reason. Nice to have an infinite homeward bone at least. surprised I’m very afraid of what would happen if I gave the Firekeeper the eyes, given their description, so I’ll refrain. >.>

I decided to do Ashes of Ariandel before going back to the twin demons, but Friede tells me to do something first in the real world… There’s an item to find in the depths of Lothric Castle, apparently? I’m pretty sure I’ve explored everything in that area though…

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16533: May 30th 2025 at 3:40:32 PM

[up] I think you misheard her talk about you being the Lord of Hollows and to go back to Londor? There's nothing in Lothric gating progressing, and she gives you a ring a as gift.

The eyes are elaborated on by Ludleth...provided you haven't already gotten all the cinders so he isn't there anymore.

The shrine maiden actually has unique dialogue if you talk to here there before doing so in the real Firelink.

Edited by doineedaname on May 30th 2025 at 7:15:52 AM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16534: May 30th 2025 at 4:37:22 PM

Okay, turns out I had just missed the ladder before the bridge. tongue I do wonder about that prompte at the start of the snowfields.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ds3_3.jpg

("Whomever takes interest in the painting should first search the depths of Lothric Castle.")

I thought Friede telling me to go back to my world had something to do with that, hence my confusion.

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16535: May 30th 2025 at 5:24:30 PM

[up] Oh, no that's just warning you that if you're not good enough to beat the Dancer you shouldn't be here. You can access Ashes of Ariandel the second you reach the Deacon's chapel so you can get there really fast. tongue

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16536: May 30th 2025 at 5:26:23 PM

And they’re damn right, because god those corvian swordsmen (swords…crows?) are worse than some bosses. evil grin

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16537: May 31st 2025 at 6:57:29 PM

Still in Ariandel. I’ve explored the snowfields, the Corvian village, even that room full of giant flies, unlocked various shortcuts, I’ve brought Elfriede (I think that’s her name?) back to the chapel, fought legions of Vikings and endless packs of wolves —no thanks for that, Miyazaki—, I fought the big wolf twice and climbed the tower guarded by the big guys… but I’m in that usual Dark Souls situation where every time I think I’ve found a way forward, I end up back where I started. tongue I do see another ladder leading all the way down near the chapel’s bridge, but haven’t found how to reach it yet…

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16538: May 31st 2025 at 7:09:42 PM

[up] I might be mixing areas up, but there's a lever in the fly room by one of the pillars.

Only semi-related, but I remember a streamer I was watching play it realize they were spoiled on a part of an area in the DLC by a reference to the game in an anime they did a Let's Watch of. tongue

Edited by doineedaname on May 31st 2025 at 10:11:31 AM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16539: May 31st 2025 at 7:48:37 PM

Ah, could be. Missing a lever would be very typically me. evil grin

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#16540: May 31st 2025 at 9:29:31 PM

Pretty sure I'm mostly through Dark Souls 2. But how do I go back into the giant's memories? I've gotten the king ring and all 4 primal bonfires.

Edited by Spirit on May 31st 2025 at 12:30:02 PM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#16541: May 31st 2025 at 9:44:17 PM

There should be a door in the Shaded Woods that will open with the King's Ring. Following that path will eventually lead you to a way to enter memories.

Edited by Moth13 on May 31st 2025 at 12:44:52 PM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16542: Jun 1st 2025 at 10:29:19 AM

I might be mixing areas up, but there's a lever in the fly room by one of the pillars.

Yup, that was it… but to be fair to myself for once, that one was very easy to miss, especially when I was busy fighting off those pests. >.>

So… huh, I’m fighting the final boss already? Okay. First phase shouldn’t be too hard, considering Friede has pretty low HP, but that vanishing move… I haven’t quite figured out how to consistently avoid it yet. I just stand still until I hear the noise and then I run around, hoping to catch a glimpse of her before she strikes; it works maybe half of the time.

But the true fun begins when Daddy enters, and that’s not too hard either once you figure out how to keep them apart (it helps that Friede is much less agressive in this phase) and remember to not stay under Ariandel for too long. After a few attempts (I died a lot more in the first phase, really), they go down and I claim victory!

Whew, that wasn’t too bad… Strange that I only get a titanite slab as a reward, but okay. So, where’s that bonfire… Hm? What’s that voice? Wait, what are you getting back up, Friede, and what’s with those flames? Why am I dead?

Alright, I feel like I’m gonna return from whence I cam’st a lot. tongue

Edited by Lyendith on Jun 1st 2025 at 10:35:43 AM

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#16543: Jun 1st 2025 at 12:32:56 PM

[up] The fake out for the third phase is one of the best things ever in the franchise. tongue

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#16544: Jun 1st 2025 at 3:25:51 PM

Does Forlorn kills count towards Way of the Blue ranks?

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#16545: Jun 2nd 2025 at 1:20:53 AM

For the Lucatiel achievement in 2, am I locked out of it if I kill her when she invades me? Or can I still go back and fulfill her conditions to appear at Aldia's Keep even if I already killed her red spirit?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#16546: Jun 2nd 2025 at 7:30:50 AM

The invader is actually Lucatiel's brother, so you're fine.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16547: Jun 2nd 2025 at 9:23:14 AM

Ah, I was wondering if you could actually get invaded by her for a second. evil grin

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16548: Jun 2nd 2025 at 2:27:32 PM

Still haven’t beat Friede. I think she’s the first boss in DS3 that took me more than 2 days to beat (save for the twin demons). surprised BUT I reached the third phase three times this time around, the last time with more than half of my estus left, so there’s progress.

I’m kinda starting to figure out her invisible attack…? Sometimes I manage to find her with the "hints" she leaves, making her visible and open, but it’s far from consistent.

PS: Oh, and before that, since that suspended bridge looked awfully familiar, I tried the same trick as with the previous one. And it worked! That platforming session was a bit stressful, but the boss wasn’t too hard. Glad I could end that fight with the Big Bad Wolf. tongue

That last tree at the end of the path where you find the ice sorcery was a bit… weird. Can’t explain why.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#16549: Jun 2nd 2025 at 3:29:25 PM

[up]Friede is one of those bosses that is the complete package: multiple health bars with a delay so you cannot blitz her or burn her down with one proc, multiple elements and a status to prevent easy gear choices, huge moveset with multiple combo chains, and some unusual complications-invisibility plus the ability to heal. Still one of my favorite Fromsoft bosses.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#16550: Jun 2nd 2025 at 7:05:21 PM

My Hollowslayer Greatsword worked well enough against her thanks to it dealing more damage against Hollows. Friede's a Hollow.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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