It's generic fantasy.
edited 5th Feb '11 9:11:51 PM by snowfoxofdeath
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And since the characters bug me so much, how did they work for you?
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Warm hugs and morally questionable advice given here. Prosey BitchfestThe main character's overpowered, but the villain's even worse, so it balances out. I didn't think the characterization was that bad, either.
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It didn't bother me. I saw the non-feminist stuff more.
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And I think her inner conflict balanced out her powers, in both novels.
In general, I think Fire is more balanced out. While Po and Leck were the few people who could truly match Katsa, Fire had people who shielded their mind, people who hated her with an envy, and then the predators that would attack her. While the plot isn't as structured as nicely (everything with Leck seems like only a detour), I liked the world. Give it a few years, and I could live in it.
Personally, I find the mature themes in Fire and how they are presented...interesting.
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Is it bad I have lower expectations of fiction than most people here?
edited 17th Oct '11 10:30:41 PM by chihuahua0
The parts with the king actually weren't very interesting to me, because Katsa's character was the same when she was under him and it was obvious to me that Katsa would leave him eventually. The guys, except Po, are rather flat. However, I did like the plot, and it was a very interesting read overall. Fire was good too, and hearts to Leck.
Anyway, Katsa is a better name than Katniss.
Still, her explanation as to exactly what would happen if her uncle tried to stop her was fairly awesome.
"Uncle, Let me explain what will happen the instant one of your men makes a move toward me. Let's say, for instance, one of your archers lets an arrow fly. You've not come to many of my practices, Uncle. You haven't seen me dodge arrows; but your archers have. If one of your archers releases an arrow, I'll drop to the floor. The arrow will doubtless hit one of your guards. The sword and the dagger of that guard will be in my hands before anyone in the room has time to realize what's happened. A fight will break out with the guards: but only seven or eight of them can surround me at once, Uncle, and seven or eight are nothing to me. As I kill the guards I'll take their daggers and begin throwing them into the hearts of your archers, who of course will have no sighting on me once the brawl with the guards has brokwn out.
I'll get out of the room alive, Uncle; but most of the rest of you will be dead. Of course, this is only what will happen if I wait for one of your men to make a move. I could move first. I could attack a guard, steal his dagger, and hurl it into your chest this instant."
Rather frightening to have someone like that as an enemy.
edited 4th May '12 2:49:07 PM by Matues
The romance was better than in most YA novels. For once, the guy is actually SUPPORTIVE of the girl and actually believes in her abilities without going all macho.
But overall, it was pretty meh. For some reason, I kept on comparing Katsa with Chung-li.
I sympathize with short, angry men who have big egos.

I found all these gushy reviews
, some of them clearly written by teenage girls. I read it and found it to be clunky, awkward, and the characters were mildly irritating, but I got through it okay. So, tropers, how did you like it?
edited 5th Feb '11 9:14:58 PM by snowfoxofdeath
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