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#977: Dec 5th 2022 at 1:45:16 PM

I would love a mirror match boss against young kratos, reprised by TC Carson.

The hard part is justifying that actually happening

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#978: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:17:14 PM

Word of God says that while Kratos has no access to his Greek magic, he's technically stronger than his Greek Era self, as Greek Gods get Stronger with Age. He's only not as visually impressive in Go W 2018 because he's holding back his bloodlust as to not be a bad influence on Atreus.

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#979: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:49:18 PM

[up][up] They could say it's an illusion or something like that.

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#980: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:13:08 PM

[up][up]He's also not driven by the same kind of rage that drove his younger self for most of the Greek Era games. Greek Era Kratos was a man of extremes — when he's not driven by rage he quickly falls into suicidal despair. There's a reason he's first introduced stepping off a cliff.

Norse Era Kratos is more balanced, relatively speaking. He's not quite capable of the same extreme rage of his past self barring Papa Wolf Spartan Rage moments, but he's also not dealing with his bad feelings by jumping off cliffs or impaling himself with huge swords.

Edited by M84 on Dec 5th 2022 at 8:15:21 PM

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#981: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:37:20 PM

Honestly, I bet Norse Era Kratos would get along well with Asura, while Greek Era Kratos would just be another god for Asura to slaughter (Especially if he killed his daughter Mithra in his own carnage against various gods, as Kratos has killed other culture's beasts and stole their powers, as the Persians in God of War: Chains of Olympus found out the hard way).

It's even thought that Norse Era Kratos was actually inspired in some ways character wise from Asura. His Spartan Rage being just fisticuffs and nothing else is very Asura esque.

Hell, its so fitting there's a mod of the Baldur fight with Asura in place of Kratos (And Baldur replaced by Chakravartin from the same game):

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Dec 5th 2022 at 7:39:05 AM

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#982: Dec 5th 2022 at 11:44:25 PM

One of the ways Kratos is better than his father or grandfather is that unlike them he was never afraid of his own children. He fought against impossible odds to retrieve Ambrosia for Calliope's sake in the comics, and he explicitly wants Atreus to be a better and stronger god than Kratos himself.

Contrast with Cronos who ate his own children out of fear of being overthrown by them. Or with Zeus, whose own fear of being overthrown by his own son was what let the Evil of Fear from Pandora's Box to take root in him.

That said, Zeus was at least better than his own father in this regard. He let Kratos live to adulthood, raised him to godhood, and offered Kratos one last chance to agree to serve Zeus in GOW II's prologue.

Honestly, I bet Norse Era Kratos would get along well with Asura, while Greek Era Kratos would just be another god for Asura to slaughter (Especially if he killed his daughter Mithra in his own carnage against various gods, as Kratos has killed other culture's beasts and stole their powers, as the Persians in God of War: Chains of Olympus found out the hard way).

The funny thing is that Greek Era Kratos would respect Asura's Papa Wolf nature. While he did kill Hephaestus when the latter tried to kill him, Kratos sympathized with Hephaestus' reason for doing so.

Kratos: Hephaestus did what every father should do. Protect his child.

Edited by M84 on Dec 6th 2022 at 3:49:07 AM

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#983: Dec 14th 2022 at 10:28:37 PM

I'm almost at the end. Honestly it's striking just how much Kratos has evolved. The scene where he reverts to his old self and kills Heimdall was chilling; even the fact that Heimdall was a jackass means that I can't take catharsis, since Kratos lost control and acted like his old monstrous self. Odin is a great baddie, managing to honestly come off as benevolent. I knew what would happen and I was still taken in.

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#984: Dec 15th 2022 at 3:07:06 AM

Honestly, I can understand Kratos during Heimdall's death. That didn't feel like the Greek Kratos, where he killed people just because they stood in his way, or even because he didn't like them. Kratos had given him the chance to go back to Asgard safe and unharmed, and Heimdall instead took it badly and threatened to kill Atreus the second he had the chance to do so if he got away (and, considering their first encounter, there's no doubt he would have done so). It was kind of a Shoot the Dog moment for Kratos, in that he clearly didn't want to kill him, but he had to do it if he wanted to protect Atreus.

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#985: Dec 15th 2022 at 3:38:44 AM

The brutality of the kill is what implies that this was the old Kratos resurfacing.

Kratos could have just snapped Heimdall’s neck like he did Baldur’s. But he didn’t.

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#986: Dec 15th 2022 at 11:14:41 PM

God of War’ Live-Action TV Series Ordered at Amazon

Huh. This sounds umh interesting. Not sure how you do a work like this in live action.

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#987: Dec 15th 2022 at 11:40:17 PM

the show follows Kratos, the God of War, who, after exiling himself from his blood-soaked past in ancient Greece, hangs up his weapons forever in the Norse realm of Midgard, per Amazon’s description.
Kind of weird to start a series with "guy from greece who wiped out the Greek gods moved to Scandinavia and now is being bothered by Norse gods". I guess they didn't have confidence in an adaptation of the original games, unless they plan on having a lot of flashbacks.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#988: Dec 15th 2022 at 11:53:54 PM

Greece had too many giant monsters for the budget. tongue

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#989: Dec 16th 2022 at 12:44:05 AM

That and uh let's be honest in terns of actual story the Norse era is what you want to go with.

Mind you I don't know how it's going to work without the added pathos and backstory of the Greek era being in it.

Or the budget. Like T Lo U at least doesn't have anything that would cost the earth to make but the CGI for the fights in God of war would need to be insane.

Edited by miraculous on Dec 16th 2022 at 12:44:56 PM

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#990: Dec 16th 2022 at 3:35:03 AM

These tv and movie adaptions of games are getting more and more superfluous. God of War Norse era is already cinematic as hell.

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#991: Dec 16th 2022 at 9:59:08 PM

Youtube music artist Miracle of Sound has created a song tribute to the game titled "To Be Better", which does a great job capturing Kratos's new arc.

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#992: Dec 17th 2022 at 11:21:06 AM

I'm genuinely tickled by what they've done with Kratos. To think video game dad simulators were balked at once upon a time.

I've balked at almost every video game live action ever. Years of hearing a Halo series and a Geara aeries and a Bioshock movie would come out leaves you jaded.

Plus Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat, and Halo got done raw.

But with TLOU and Sonic getting this renaissance I say hey, you know what, I'm done foe this. God of War is basically Spartacus Blood and Sand. Do you know how many shows we've done about bloodthirsty men/women in ancient/barbaric times living in debauchery and killing mythical beasts? Spartacus, Rome, Vikings, Xena, Hercules, Game of Thrones, and more.

You could do that with the Greek or Norse era and there's a market for both. Just make sure it goes to HBO Max and not the CW, Fox, Netflix, or Disney+.

[up] Miracle of Sound is always a treat.

Edited by FOFD on Dec 17th 2022 at 2:25:53 PM

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#994: Dec 17th 2022 at 11:47:51 AM

Uh I dunno their isn't much going on to be like multiple seasons worth of plot their.

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#995: Dec 17th 2022 at 12:17:50 PM

Hopefully it's not multiple seasons because that'll just lead to Seasonal Rot. I'd take a solid 6 to 8 episodes of focused storytelling about Kratos teaching a class of Greek boys to solve weird puzzles, or taking part in a myth and drowning Narcissus to use his body as a raft or something.

Over a weak 3 season adaption of GOW's 1 to 3 with a bunch of unnecessary characters and subplots.

There are so many ways to adapt Greek and Norse lore into TV format and the God of War formula.

No idea who'd play Kratos. You'd need a black dude in white makeup, or a white dude built out of wood with a deep, rumbling voice. Or some kind of Hawaiian/Native actor.

Or you know like a bald Jason Mamoa.

Or Dwayne Johnson with a goatee. Evil The Rock.

Mayhe Vin Diesel?

Edited by FOFD on Dec 17th 2022 at 3:22:08 PM

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#996: Dec 17th 2022 at 12:29:05 PM

Funnily enough I think that would be the only difficult casting for the Norse era. Thanks to Ink-Suit Actor the game actors could just reprise in real life

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#997: Dec 17th 2022 at 1:47:02 PM

Oh yeah. If all this would be happening 20 years ago, you'd bet your ass Judge would be cast as Kratos.

LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#998: Dec 18th 2022 at 9:18:03 PM

Kratos was a pretty bad person in the greek stories. The only things that pulled him back were that he loved his family (Pandora being like Calliope is what made him actually rethink things.)

Hell in a way he and Odin had something in common. Both had the capability for goodness and kindness but they had an overriding obsession with a certain thing (in Kratos' case revenge, Odin knowledge and the power of the rift) that they were willing to do horrible things to get. The difference is that even at his worst Kratos still had some love for his family, which ultimately allowed him to change his behavior whereas Odin refused to do so.

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#999: Dec 18th 2022 at 9:53:37 PM

Kratos was at his worst in GOW II's intro, with him lashing out at the world in the same way Ares did in the first game.

That's notably the only time we see Kratos as a full-blown god in the Greek era games. He's promptly depowered and rendered mortal again for most of GOW II and III until stabbing the Blade of Olympus into himself apparently returned Kratos' godly power that was drained into it.

So basically the only thing he did with his godhood in the Greek Era games was to lay waste to cities like Rhodes as stress relief. No wonder he thinks he was a shitty god in hindsight.

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#1000: Dec 20th 2022 at 9:48:51 AM

He's promptly depowered and rendered mortal again for most of GOW II and III until stabbing the Blade of Olympus into himself apparently returned Kratos' godly power that was drained into it

Yo what? Is that actually what happened? He never did any of his god stuff again after 2.


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