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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24951: Sep 11th 2022 at 2:03:10 AM

Spider-Man 60th Anniversary Panel at D23 was mainly a run down of significant moments in Spider-Man history hosted by Nick Lowe and CB Cebulski.

They talked a bit about the urban myths surrounding Stan's involvement in Gwen's death (he knew before heading off for Vacation), Lowe got the name of MJ's wedding dress designer wrong ("Willie BROWN", ugh), Cebulski regards the marriage as a long-lived phase of Peter's life where he was at his happiest. OMD is briefly mentioned as a lightning rod for debates that rage on to this day, and that the internet should not be trusted when it comes to the reception of Superior Spider-Man.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#24952: Sep 11th 2022 at 6:42:57 AM

I liked Superior Spider-Man.

But damn, were the first few issues just trolling the audience.

Particularly the cover of the 2nd issue.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24953: Sep 11th 2022 at 6:45:42 AM

Yeah, it's pretty disingenuous to solely blame the internet for that one.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#24954: Sep 11th 2022 at 6:48:29 AM

At the very least I like how it started the thing of "Superior" referring to evil counterpart versions of the character trying to outdo them in some way

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#24955: Sep 11th 2022 at 7:08:03 AM

There was Spider-Man and Iron Man… Were there many more?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#24956: Sep 11th 2022 at 7:09:51 AM

There's also the Superior Carnage mini and the Superior Foes of Spider-Man.

It wasn't used much. I think Iron Man was the last major series to use it. For whatever reason it killed off the trend.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#24957: Sep 11th 2022 at 7:14:33 AM

I think a Superior Captain America could have been a good excuse to have the government take another swing at a government controlled Cap.

But Sam was probably Cap at that time and it would have sucked to have his go interrupted or shared.

Edit: Wait, no. Just googled and it was the dimension Z stuff. By all means, superior it up, Cap

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 11th 2022 at 10:16:30 AM

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#24958: Sep 12th 2022 at 11:50:06 AM

(With apologies to anyone who's already seen this on other Marvel forum threads)

For anyone who's editing Spider-Man or other Marvel pages, we've now got a long-term project thread on the forums (here) for supporting tropers with edits on Marvel's comics, webcomics and manga, which may be of use.

And if you want to point out any Marvel works/characters pages that would benefit from expansion or rewrites, that'll be a good place to flag them for other tropers' attention.

Thanks!

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#24960: Sep 12th 2022 at 6:11:53 PM

The next asm issue leaked. We finally have a conclusion to the hellfire gala stuff. Peter and Logan succeed in rescuing mj and then Peter offers to get a coffee with her and she says he knows why she can't and that its not about him ifs about responsibility and she thought he'd understand that. So we are keeping the mystery box garbage going full speed ahead.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#24961: Sep 12th 2022 at 6:15:02 PM

Huh so thats what Gold Goblin looks like

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#24962: Sep 12th 2022 at 8:35:57 PM

[up][up] Well, that just sounds utterly obnoxious. A mystery where the characters don't know the truth? Cool! Great! A mystery where the characters know full well what's going on but the reader is kept in the dark? I'm actually going to call that shitty, lazy writing. When characters start talking around the thing without ever saying what the thing is, just to get readers wondering what the thing is? Nah, that's lazy. That's a half-assed way of drumming up reader interest. It shows a lack of confidence in the actual story. It implies that the story isn't actually interesting enough on its own, so artificial drama is added in by trying to drum up reader speculation. It's a gimmick, and a shitty one at that.

If the characters know something, the readers should know it. They shouldn't have to wait the better part of a year to find out. Knock off the bullshit, and just get to the fucking reveal.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24963: Sep 12th 2022 at 8:41:28 PM

That does sound obnoxious, but if I may be pedantic, I believe that's not technically "Mystery Box" writing. Mystery Box is when a writer introduces a mystery in-story before they themselves come up with the answer - Rey from Star Wars' heritage for instance.

This is just wheels-spinning.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#24965: Sep 12th 2022 at 9:08:41 PM

"Wouldn't it be cool if Juggernaut fell out of the sky and said the word onslaught?"

"Who did it?"

"You're missing the point. Wouldn't it be cool??"

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24966: Sep 12th 2022 at 9:09:38 PM

[up][up] Hehe, yeah, I even once saw a blog cataloging all the meaningless mysteries in '90s X-Men - though some have been resolved since then, like the Isolationist from X-Factor.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Sep 12th 2022 at 11:09:45 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24967: Sep 12th 2022 at 11:47:34 PM

Looks as though my theories about MJ being in a controlling relationship with Paul and the kids might have an air of truth to them. Peter even directly challenges MJ about her feelings for Paul when MJ confirms he's the reason she can't talk to him

Edited by Zarius on Sep 13th 2022 at 12:55:31 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24968: Sep 14th 2022 at 5:51:48 AM

Edge of Spider-Verse#3 (Felicia as the Night Spider)

Too much success with her powers bores Felicia so much she reveals her identity to her nemesis Jean De Wolf (who's also her best friend) and surrenders to the police, but before she's led away, Anya shows up and tells her she's needed in the Spider-Verse to pull off a heist and she escapes

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24969: Sep 14th 2022 at 6:09:59 AM

Oh hey. Sakura Spider's in this, neat.

These stories are kind of bleh, though. Putting three stories in each issue makes them feel really barebones and whatever - the Spider-Gwen issue felt like a checklist of Spider-Gwen story beats.

Night Spider story was somewhat interesting, though I dislike that her story is entirely divorced from Peter.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#24970: Sep 14th 2022 at 9:04:38 AM

For context of [up]: Sakura Spider is the Spider-Man-themed partner for Deadpool in the Deadpool: Samurai manga. Last I read from there, she was real fun.

And on that note, HOLY SHIRT HOLY SHIRT HOLY SHIRT! surprisedgrin

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#24971: Sep 14th 2022 at 9:23:41 AM

[up][up]ehh it doesn't bother me as much because Felicia only became interested because of spider-man. And wasn't really into Peter himself when they were introduced

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#24972: Sep 14th 2022 at 9:24:01 AM

EDIT: DOUBLE POST

Edited by Deadpoolrocks on Sep 14th 2022 at 9:24:29 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24973: Sep 14th 2022 at 10:14:27 AM

Miles is returning to his original costume for his December relaunch, Cody Ziglar is the new writer

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#24974: Sep 14th 2022 at 11:25:44 AM

[up] Ha! I knew he'd be back in his OG costume. evil grin Ooh, and his new writer wrote Spider-Punk and Craig of the Creek. Those are cool references! grin

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#24975: Sep 14th 2022 at 11:29:56 AM

Thank God. The new costume is so dumb. Its fine if it was a starter costume but it isn't


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