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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#24851: Aug 11th 2022 at 5:46:55 AM

Fair enough, it's just that most of Peter's homegrown threats, the really important and relevant ones to him, are usually in "his lane" ie native to his comic and tinged with that comic book-y science. Yes, he gets involved in magic adventures that are in the rest of the Marvel universe, but Green Goblin and Doc Ock always come at him with stuff like chemistry and cybernetics, not arcane rituals to summon the dark lords to combat him.

I mean probably, I sure as hell haven't read every Spider-Man comic book. Maybe Otto is part of the Octopus Totem and Normal the Goblin Totem, IDK.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#24852: Aug 11th 2022 at 6:19:57 AM

Supposedly Norman is actually part of the Tiger totem.

Yeah it's bullshit.

Sure the other Marvel corners have magic but making Mephisto such an integral part of Spidey lore was a mistake.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24853: Aug 11th 2022 at 7:13:23 AM

[up] No he isn't. He tries to gain some magic powers through some monks that would have had him become a tiger totem, but he rejects it because the training would require him to abandon the goblin side of him.

[up][up] Not sure if it's changed but the original JSM run started out by saying that Peter's animal-themed villains are false totems/"pretenders"

Basically, they dress the part, but that's it.

Edited by Saiga on Aug 11th 2022 at 7:19:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#24854: Aug 11th 2022 at 8:35:54 AM

It's implied by that story had he embraced his furry Tiger side he would be part of the Tiger Totem yeah.

Weirdly, Doc Ock and Venom aren't part of the Spider-Totems, even if Dock Ock was in Peter's body and then had a body with spider-powers.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#24855: Aug 11th 2022 at 9:25:01 AM

[up]Now I'm just imagining Norman going through with it, and the next time he shows up to fight Spider-Man, he's just in a fursuit. "You may have been a match for the Green Goblin, but can you defeat... my OC tiger fursona?"

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#24856: Aug 11th 2022 at 9:41:10 AM

See like the whole totem thing is just a weird way of trying to justify all of those furry Spidey villains.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24857: Aug 11th 2022 at 11:19:38 AM

Edge of Spider-Verse#2 preview

Dan Slott writes Annie May for the first time since Secret Wars

Edited by Zarius on Aug 11th 2022 at 1:14:31 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#24858: Aug 11th 2022 at 11:39:24 PM

So they ended up finishing the Gwen Stacy miniseries. It was pretty good, and it tied a few loose ends together.

Crime Master actually found out Osborn was the Goblin thanks to Fisk, and the Jameson stunt we saw in Untold Tales made him more eager to betray Norman. The reason Kingpin was allowed to take over the gangs also was because of a deal he made with Norman, which is why Goblin stopped caring about being a Crime Boss after a few issues.

It takes care to focus on a lot of the silver age stuff from the old days. Fredwick Foswell is even a main character.

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#24859: Aug 15th 2022 at 10:27:06 PM

I always thought Arachnophobia was a good independent superhero name for Kaine. He doesn't even have to change his Scarlet Spider costume or anything, just rebrand (and have people ignore him as always).

And, to my knowledge, the only thing with that name in Marvel is some weird fusion toyline, but otherwise no actual character uses it.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#24860: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:01:35 AM

Always thought that would be a villain’s name.

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Goku Black
#24861: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:03:13 AM

@Josh: Which Crime Master is this?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24862: Aug 16th 2022 at 7:11:41 AM

The original, from ASM 26 and 27.

I thought it was pretty good, but frankly it didn't get interested for me until Gwen's BF's dad was implicated. Everything up to that point was a bit... eh. I don't really think making Gwen the teen detective makes her more interesting, and it comes off a little silly with her father sharing case details with her and such.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#24863: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:58:16 PM

Its surprising Kaine has really not appeared in a while

Which granted considering whats going on with Ben thats probably a blessing in disguise

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#24864: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:25:53 PM

He was smart enough to skip Spencer’s stuff and the Beyond stuff

Kaine is probably the smartest spider

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24865: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:41:09 PM

Didn't Kaine have a sidekick for a while who was hinted to be some kind of chosen one, but then nothing ever came of it because the book was canceled?

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24866: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:45:53 PM

Yeah, Hummingbird.

That was supposed to be followed up in New Warriors, but after that got cancelled too, she has only resurfaced in brief cameo appeareances.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#24867: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:46:00 PM

aracely was a goddess or something. she did show up in champions a few runs ago helping them out when the team was literally every teen hero. but hopefully she and kaine are relaxing on a mexican beach along with miguel and his wife and kid. just glad they avoided all the current spider bs

although kaine should really be in the new spiderverse

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#24868: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:47:14 PM

Aracely, the girl Kaine saved in the first issue, was connected to the Aztec god Huitzilopochtli. She was its incarnation or avatar or something. This got explored more in the 2014 New Warriors series (where, iirc, she scrapped with the Eternals and maybe Thor), but that series also was cancelled after a year, so who knows?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#24869: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:58:37 PM

Man it's a shame what happened to that plotline

Kaine Scarlet Spider series was dope, dude had managed himself a nice little supporting cast and setting in Texas.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24870: Aug 16th 2022 at 11:07:10 PM

Edge of Spider-Verse spoilers for the week:

At the end of the Ghost Spider story, Gwen gets stung by a wasp, and that's her cliffhanger. In Spidey UK, her power is revealed to be some kind of electro charge that enables her to glide, and in Shathras's story, her motivations for disrupting the great web is out of jealousy of her sister Neith's accomplishments, as the gods all favour her ideas with the Spiders. Annie realizes too late she's walked straight into a trap and Shathra's insect minions attack her and she is tortured and transformed into a 'Nestling' creature. Shathra now commands the pattern weaver

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24871: Aug 16th 2022 at 11:54:07 PM

Oh, good, the wasp stings are going to be reversible.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24872: Aug 17th 2022 at 12:37:09 AM

Oh, and in case anyone missed it last month over in X-Men: Infinity Judas Traveller has now made an appearance in full, explaining why he's working with Orchis, mainly a "for the betterment of my own people, they must be stopped" motivation and intent on exploiting the naivety of the younger mutants of Krakoa

Edited by Zarius on Aug 17th 2022 at 12:37:17 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24873: Aug 17th 2022 at 7:39:23 AM

I'm not sure how serious to take the last strip in Edge of Spider-Verse because it's 'mini marvels', but...

A variant of the original Spider-UK does still exist out there in the multiverse, but he is also turned against the Spiders by Shathra's wasps, he interrupts a baseball game between variants of Peter, Miles, and Gwen, but the new female Spider-UK arrives and kicks him out of that universe.

Edited by Zarius on Aug 17th 2022 at 7:39:56 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24874: Aug 18th 2022 at 9:54:35 AM

November Solicitations

-Gold Goblin confirmed to be five issues

-Lost Hunt also five issues (five months of the marriage, woo)

-Ben Reilly focused issue of ASM as a prelude to Dark Web, also includes Queen Goblin and a 'brand new' character

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#24875: Aug 24th 2022 at 9:21:05 AM

Trailer for End of Spider-Verse... the order of the web appears to be back, helping Peter out against Morlun and Shathra...Peter's unmasked during the battle with Morlun and the Oscorp suit gets wrecked!

Edited by Zarius on Aug 24th 2022 at 9:21:29 AM


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