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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#38426: Aug 22nd 2025 at 4:54:10 PM

[up][up][up] This one. A joke Marvel made in the 90s about the escalation between Spiderman and the symbiotes.

[up][up] It's going to be in the 616 universe. The solicit doesn't make it clear if this is M Jnom or a new Venom.

#IceBearForPresident
Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#38427: Aug 22nd 2025 at 5:13:07 PM

[up]According to the article that was linked here, which is this one since it has been a bit, that is indeed a variant of Venom. They haven't revealed who the host is yet. There will be a backup story for the new character in Venom 252, but we don't know for sure if it's in the main universe. An add for Venom #250 shows the current Venom, so MJ is still the host. Nevermind this bit I just saw the news for Venom #252.

As for a recap of the current Spider-Man books, I can only help a little bit there. I have the books for Amazing and Spider-Verse Vs. Venomverse, but I have been reading them off and on so I still need to catch up. On a quick note also from the latest Amazing issue poor Shocker for what Spidey did to him, and Tombstone is back. It feels a bit too soon for him to be back in stories.

The only book that I can recap is Spider-Man & Wolverine. I'm just going to put it all in a spoiler since nobody here talked about it and I'll try to keep it brief.

     Spider-Man & Wolverine spoilers 
Logan grabs Peter from his date with Shay so he could help him retrieve a database of spies from an abandoned helicarrier. They encountered Omega Red and Kraven there, and Logan keeps them distracted while Spidey goes for the database. Peter finds info about his parents, and how Logan was there when they died. Spidey attacks Logan thinking he killed his parents. The other two disappear while Logan tries to calm Spidey down. He ends up putting his claws through Peter

Spidey wakes up in the Savage Land in his black costume and bandages over his stomach. Logan manages to calm him down enough so they can figure out what is happening to them. They are wearing bracelets that will teleport them to different locations if they almost hit someone. Wolverine catches Spidey up on how they got there. They eventually encounter Kraven with a group led by a new character called Dreadshadow. They don't recognize him and a fight happens that involves raptors. At a certain point Spidey and Logan are teleported to Dock Ock on the Great Wall of China.

The three of them start fighting, with Spidey also making sure no civilians get hurt. The trio are then teleported to the Roman Coloseum, with Spidey then getting teleported to Dreadshadow in New York City. Both fights are shown at the same time. Dreadshadow reveals that he is the mastermind behind this series, with the intent to show both Spidey and Wolverine are not heroes. He also knows Peter is Spider-Man, but Peter doesn't know who Deadshadow is after removing his mask. Spidey gets away and swings to the Baxter Building in order to remove and examine the bracelet. He later teleports Logan to him on a rooftop. That is when Teresa appears, and she tries attacks Logan with claws and tries to kill him by shooting him with bullets made from a Murasama Blade because she thinks he killed their parents.

I tried to keep it brief, so I apologize if it's too much. I have been enjoying the series so far. There are a lot of continuity shown here, with the biggest one being Spidey remembers the Finisher said he killed his parents, but Spidey now wonders if Finisher did it himself or he arranged for the hit to happen. Also a funny moment when Spidey tris to tell Ock not to say superior, only to say he said it after Ock said it.

Edited by Digitalhero93 on Aug 22nd 2025 at 5:26:11 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38428: Aug 22nd 2025 at 7:47:16 PM

Peter dating Shay is an insult to Black Cat.

I just checked out the new Ghost Spider and think it's the best they've done in a long time. Which isn't saying much. As much as I have no love for Gwen's world, the whole cosmic dream/TVA thing was awful. Thankfully, she's back to street level crime fighting and her powers are back.

Black Cat is always good and I love her new series as well.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#38429: Aug 22nd 2025 at 7:52:36 PM

I still think Gwen should have just kept the symbiote. It wasn't evil, at least until she ditched it, so why get rid of it in the first place. If her powers have returned, it should be acting as an amplifier then.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38430: Aug 22nd 2025 at 7:57:45 PM

I'm sure it's Brand Synergy.

To be fair, she had the symbiote for like a decade too.

Because people kept forgetting she had it.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38431: Aug 22nd 2025 at 8:04:59 PM

As expected of comics any progress or unique was wiped away from Gwen so she can be soft-rebooted.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#38432: Aug 22nd 2025 at 9:05:15 PM

[up]×2

No, she kept it because it wasn't malevolent. The whole Gwenom arc ended with her keeping it. It was a conscious decision.

I just checked out the new Ghost Spider and think it's the best they've done in a long time.

I disagree. Gwen is wildly out of character and extremely selfish.

It also sucks that Silk has been downgraded to being a supporting character in Gwen's book.

Edited by Cortez on Aug 22nd 2025 at 12:06:29 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#38433: Aug 23rd 2025 at 12:01:30 AM

Issue #2 of Black Cat's new series will feature a guest appearance from Daredevil.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#38434: Aug 23rd 2025 at 9:07:20 AM

The new Spider-Gwen run was supposed to get her a new band, right? Did the first issue do anything with that? It might be funny if the singer was another girl who clearly had a thing for Gwen.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#38435: Aug 23rd 2025 at 12:15:07 PM

[up]

No singer yet. As of right now the band is just Gwen and Cindy.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#38436: Aug 23rd 2025 at 12:50:53 PM

Next time there’s a Spider-Verse, Blade in his Spider Hero outfit should get swept up in things and have a miserable time because nobody will believe him when he says he’s not spider affiliated and doesn’t want to be involved.

That’s my thought of the day.

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IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#38437: Aug 23rd 2025 at 1:55:34 PM

Remind me, do Blade's Dracula powers come with wall crawling? Did they come before or after he was bullied into helping the Avengers?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#38438: Aug 23rd 2025 at 2:40:34 PM

Blade has all the Dracula powers, even if he doesn’t usually use them. So that probably includes wall crawling since vampires are known to do that.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#38439: Aug 23rd 2025 at 2:43:27 PM

Funnily enough originally blade was just immune to vampire bites. No other powers. Then he got bit my morbius when he was morbin out and somehow his plasma being stolen led to him getting the powers of a vampire but none of the weaknesses.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38440: Aug 23rd 2025 at 2:48:46 PM

Amusingly the solicit for Strange Tales #2 mentions the Mary Jane's band

STRANGE TALES #2 (OF 4)

Jeremy Whitley (W)

Bayleigh Underwood (A/C)

Strange Things are Afoot… While running late for her next gig with the Mary Janes on Halloween, Gwen Stacy discovers that the night of mischief has left Doctor Strange a victim of the nefarious Green Goblin! With pumpkin bombs exploding and webs thwipping within the halls of the Sanctum Sanctorum, grave consequences await Gwen as the witching hour comes to a close.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38441: Aug 23rd 2025 at 3:07:26 PM

There was a third member but Venom killed them.

Gwen making a band from unsued Spider-Ladies would be awesome.

Bring back Mattie Franklin and Arana!

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#38442: Aug 23rd 2025 at 4:05:33 PM

Only if they bring back Arana's carapace and bolas while getting rid of those weak ripoff Changes/The Other powers. Then again, if you're making the Mary Janes a spider-lady band, why not just make it Arana and Silk(and leave Mattie dead, someone's death has to stick).

And until I see Marvel Dracula wall crawling, I'm just going to assume Blade can't. I don't know whether him lacking the ability to or not would make a Spider-Verse event would be funnier. It'd definitely be funnier if it happened long after the point he had been outed as Ronin but he suddenly found himself in the Spider-costume again for reasons he can't explain. Or maybe just because he never got found out as "Spider-Hero" he goes back to it when he's trying to remain hidden only for it spectacularly backfire when it gets him even more attention.

Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on Aug 23rd 2025 at 4:06:40 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38443: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:21:01 PM

If you're going to have deaths stick, don't do it with characters who are cool and fun like JJ Jameson's niece.

But agreed on Arana.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:23:21 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#38444: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:23:05 PM

Ah...Mattie Franklin.

Surprised her dying didn't have more of an impact on Jameson.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38445: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:23:53 PM

It had more of an impact on Jessica Jones.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#38446: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:31:17 PM

Jameson for all his flaws, is a family man so that he barely brings up his niece who was a Spider-Person and died is weird.

But I guess that would require the writers to remember she exists. Only thing she has going for her was that she was in Madam Web and has some mainstream attention.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#38447: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:34:02 PM

One thing I liked a lot about Clone Conspiracy is that it gave Mattie more agency in her own death, and Gwen too. They both go out as heroes rather than victims this time around.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38448: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:34:37 PM

[up][up]I don't think being in Madame Web is going to help Mattie all that much.

Hell, don't some studios show a willingness to bury characters who are in movies that do badly.

Or are part of poorly thought out character pushes?

Poor Hal Jordan and the Inhumans have suffered from that being in bad media that shaped how they were used years later.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:34:51 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#38449: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:35:47 PM

The joke was that being in Madam Web is bad but it's the most attention she got from the mainstream.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38450: Aug 23rd 2025 at 5:36:28 PM

Oh.

....well now you've made me sad.sad

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