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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#36327: Oct 4th 2024 at 5:08:17 AM

Standalone movies are probably a better idea if they ever want to do an actual faithful adaptation. Seems like most of the time Marvel just does not care to do that.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36328: Oct 4th 2024 at 5:18:13 AM

People obsess with crossovers and how "everything fits into a wider part".

Moon Knight the show actually got a lot of criticism from some people specifically because it featured no wider crossover or elements with the wider MCU setting.

The fact it was standalone is considered a negative in some eyes.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#36329: Oct 4th 2024 at 6:45:01 AM

That seems to be a Vocal Minority who look like many because they talk a lot.

The first Joker, Venom, even the first Deadpool, all were very selfcontained and did well.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36330: Oct 5th 2024 at 12:39:52 AM

First look at Ed Mcguiness art for Amazing Spider-Man#61, the start of the "Eight Deaths" event

Edited by Zarius on Oct 5th 2024 at 12:40:00 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36332: Oct 5th 2024 at 3:54:26 AM

As in him being actually happy or just beating up the wisecracker hero? Cause that's just regular Spidey stuff.

Oh, it's how still keeping up with responsibility can lead to tragedy. Regular Spidey stuff it is then. (Or every other Batman story, really?)

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36333: Oct 8th 2024 at 8:26:07 AM

An interesting clarification on Peter's love life in this week's ASM letters page

Nick Lowe says Peter and Shay aren't 'exclusive' and can date other people

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#36334: Oct 8th 2024 at 8:29:52 AM

So, Peter disappoint several girls at the same time? Fun.

Edited by Blueace on Oct 8th 2024 at 12:30:45 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#36335: Oct 8th 2024 at 8:33:41 AM

Story of his life

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36336: Oct 8th 2024 at 4:30:50 PM

[up][up][up] Oh brother, now he's just saying random stuff for kicks and giggles. Bruh practically thinks he's untouchable…

Anyone got a time machine? I want to skip to the arc that comes after 8 Deaths of Spider-Man…

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 8th 2024 at 7:32:16 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#36337: Oct 8th 2024 at 6:08:34 PM

Honestly I'd be satisfied with just a steady love interest, doesn't matter who. The chain-yanking by the creatives is the most annoying part to me.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#36338: Oct 8th 2024 at 6:55:21 PM

[up][up]After the unending humiliation he experienced in life during the Wells run...apparently even death offers him no release.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36339: Oct 8th 2024 at 7:20:13 PM

On the plus side, I'm excited to see Spider-Man and Doom work together.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36340: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:06:24 AM

More on Shay from the letters pages

Her job at Ravencroft won't be developed 'for a while'...wow. Between this and the reveal they're 'non-exclusive' they really want to hammer home she's nothing but participation eye candy who's free to have a pair of wandering eyes

Edited by Zarius on Oct 9th 2024 at 8:06:42 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36341: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:42:20 AM

This really isn't helping the reputation of so-called "open relationships" being used as an excuse for cheating by popular media.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36342: Oct 9th 2024 at 10:58:53 AM

Wanted to comment that I have issues with Tombstone trying to kill Janice.

I realize that this relationship is pretty new to comics (and started in the semi-parodic Superior Foes of Spider-Man), but it was shown as a pretty healthy relationship.

And just on a basic level, it's pretty at odds with human nature to be willing to kill your own children. It's like one of the biggest taboos there is.

I could totally seem him (or most villains who have kids) physically harming her, but attempted murder is really beyond the pale (read out of character).

I feel like I should make a comparison here with how Norman Osborn's murderousness towards his son (and grandson) stands out as a mark of how aberrant his psyche is (was).

Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 9th 2024 at 10:59:04 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36343: Oct 9th 2024 at 11:05:01 AM

Granted, Norman was going through a major villainous breakdown through Dark Reign as a result of his meds being sabotaged.

Also being written by Brian Bendis. He tends to go for a crueler than usual Norman in both regular and ultimate verses.

Green Goblin even had a major breakdown when he saw Harry sick from a near lethal overdose back in the older comics by Gerry Conway.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/img_7440_7.jpeg

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36344: Oct 9th 2024 at 12:05:02 PM

Just to clarify, I was specifically referring to Dark Reign and the underlying characterization there of him as the worst of the worst.

I suppose to be fair, since Tombstone's relationship with Janice is new (from an out of universe perspective), I can't definitively say what he would or wouldn't do.

And to your point, there's always going to be some Depending on the Writer with any character.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#36345: Oct 9th 2024 at 12:17:40 PM

How evil was Tombstone supposed to be? This one pushes him pretty far down the scale, for the forseeable future, at least.

Wake me up at your own risk.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36346: Oct 9th 2024 at 12:31:18 PM

[up][up][up] Random question, but I noticed several Spidey comics from that era, at least in reprints, are lacking punctuation at the end of their sentences. What gives?

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#36347: Oct 9th 2024 at 4:03:54 PM

[up] I think it's to save on ink. Printers back in those days were infamously inconsistent when using various colors.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#36348: Oct 9th 2024 at 6:52:22 PM

Tombstone was always pretty bad, because he was supposed to be a personal villain to Robbie. His backstory was all about how Robbie turned a blind eye to his actions out of fear.

When he made the jump to crime boss, I think he actually got less evil, honestly.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#36349: Oct 10th 2024 at 12:30:10 AM

'Random question, but I noticed several Spidey comics from that era, at least in reprints, are lacking punctuation at the end of their sentences. What gives?" From what I recall, there was, briefly, some concern over the over-use of exclamation marks. There was a bit of an agenda to cut down on them, by removing them when they showed at the end of a speech bubble. But it ended up being done in a way where any punctuation at the end of a speech bubble was removed.

I don't remember the details, and I'm having trouble finding anything on Google. But I believe it was something along those lines.

Edit: Here we go. Stan Lee decided he didn't like how much exclamation marks were used and demanded they not be used, and for the issues that were already set to be printed, they just removed the exclamation marks from the ends of speech bubbles. It was really only Amazing Spider-Man and Fantastic Four that were affected, and only very briefly.

Edited by Tiamatty on Oct 10th 2024 at 3:38:19 PM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36350: Oct 10th 2024 at 12:33:05 AM

Huh. That's weird. XD

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