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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36201: Sep 14th 2024 at 5:01:46 PM

I'm out of the loop here, who/what is Knull?

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BobtheBoldore Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#36202: Sep 14th 2024 at 5:27:37 PM

[up]The dark god Cates retconned into creating the symbiotes during his Venom run. He's also the original wielder of All-Black, Gorr's sword.

Edited by BobtheBoldore on Sep 14th 2024 at 7:27:49 AM

Aisaac123 “Cause i'm a punkrocker, yes i am” from México Since: Jun, 2024 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
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#36203: Sep 14th 2024 at 6:28:26 PM

I guess getting my hopes up about seeing Spider-Man is useless right?

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#36204: Sep 14th 2024 at 6:41:53 PM

Anti Venom predates Knull by a good 5 years or so yet now has about the same number of appearances in adaptations.

But despite arguably being an easier sell to audiences Anti Venom still hasn't made the big screen debut. Or Agent Venom for that matter.

So yeah that's kinda cool for Knull.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#36205: Sep 14th 2024 at 6:47:24 PM

I mean does he? you gotta have someone study symbiotes well enough to make a symbiote that kills others. It can be dont but creator of the symbiotes requires less set up/

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#36206: Sep 14th 2024 at 6:49:32 PM

Anti-Venom has made adaptation appearances, in the Edge of Time game and the Ultimate Spidey cartoon.

Of course he's an antagonist in both those I think.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#36207: Sep 14th 2024 at 7:15:42 PM

A "white symbiote that kills other symbiotes" is an easier explanation than "primordial God of the dark who created symbiotes to kill everything". Don't even need to get into the finer details of their relationships with Lightforce or Captain Universe/Anti-All.

Relatively speaking of course. This is comics.

Edited by Spirit on Sep 14th 2024 at 10:16:10 AM

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#36208: Sep 14th 2024 at 7:28:58 PM

No matter how good the movie is, Knull is gonna get hit by the adaptational nerf bat. There's simply not enough time to have him kill Eddie twice and introduce all the captain universe enigma force stuff.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#36209: Sep 14th 2024 at 9:39:39 PM

I guess getting my hopes up about seeing Spider-Man is useless right?

They are saving Spidey for actually good movies, they already announced another Holland film. Be thankful they aren't putting him in the purely Sonyverse stinkers. This is the only thing where Peter Parker has good fortune, do you want it ruined?

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#36210: Sep 14th 2024 at 10:11:09 PM

[up]Eh, he was a bad plot thread in Madame Web, i say he destroyed his luck there too

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#36211: Sep 14th 2024 at 10:24:09 PM

Idk about saving him for good films, they've already made eight Spidey films and haven't hit a 50% batting average

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36212: Sep 15th 2024 at 2:57:39 PM

I randomly remembered a holiday comic where Spider-Man fought Mephisto to save The Angel Of Christmas.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Sep 15th 2024 at 6:00:38 AM

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Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
#36213: Sep 16th 2024 at 12:23:42 PM

Andi's new design, which looks like a very awkward mix of Mania, Agent Venom, and Scream/Silence.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36214: Sep 16th 2024 at 1:27:56 PM

Yeaaaah... what's up with the head?

She looks more like a Sonic character.

MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
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#36215: Sep 16th 2024 at 1:40:21 PM

jesus christ i thought you were slightly exaggerating, but wow she does look like a sonic character

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36216: Sep 16th 2024 at 2:21:06 PM

I do like the idea of her returning to a kid-sidekick like design since her post Mania looks made her seem like a grown ass woman rather then a teenager. But this one might be a bit too cartoony.

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#36217: Sep 16th 2024 at 2:55:43 PM

Sonic and Spider-Man have a long tradition of sharing archetypes of wisecracking heroes, rotund villains who excel at robotics, convoluted plans involving lots of variants of the same people/designs, and really awkward anti-sex abuse public service announcements that became memes.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#36218: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:08:37 PM

Not to mention awkward editorial mandates designed to keep them young and hip.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#36219: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:12:37 PM

Someone really gotta give Flash a new book or something.

Guy's been stuck playing support to Carnage.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#36220: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:17:08 PM

Oh he’s alive again? Neat.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#36221: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:20:26 PM

Well yes except no.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#36222: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:22:34 PM

[up][up]his symbiote codex in the hivemind took over one of the symbiote dragons knull had, and put it on his dead body which brought him back

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#36223: Sep 16th 2024 at 3:42:50 PM

Yeah. Flash is basically a disembodied ghost puppeting a Grendel symbiote, and is bonded to his own skeleton. He has no real flesh, it's all symbiote matter wrapped around bones. Also the Grendel itself is still conscious, it just kinda lets Flash take the wheel unless something pisses it off enough to reassert control.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36224: Sep 16th 2024 at 4:07:57 PM

So kinda like that 'What If' where Spider-Man stayed possessed and was just a puppeteered skeleton by the end.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Sep 16th 2024 at 7:08:06 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#36225: Sep 16th 2024 at 9:55:51 PM

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

There are like 4 different what ifs where Spider-Man keeps the symbiote. But I do know which one you're talking about for real tho.

What if they got stuck on battleworld?

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