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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#36151: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:02:52 AM

[up]It's a novel, not a comic book. Which would explain why it wasn't brought up till now.

Edit: We were talking about a new What If book about Wanda and Peter Parker being siblings.

Edited by Digitalhero93 on Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:04:43 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36152: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:08:28 AM

Yeah it was brought up around the end of last year in this thread, and it came out.

So....what, is Magneto Peter's uncle now?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#36153: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:11:13 AM

[up]No idea. I just found out about the book from you asking about it now. I might get it since the premise sounds so weird.

Edited by Digitalhero93 on Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:12:02 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36154: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:12:16 AM

Imagine if he was the one who got shot by the burglar.

"Peter, kill them all."

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#36155: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:17:32 AM

Magneto and Ben — or Magneto and May — as siblings? I would quite like to read that.

And now I want a story where May has Magneto's powers and Peter has to talk her down (possibly for the first and only time) when Ben's shot...

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36156: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:23:42 AM

Soooooooo.........I had this crack idea of a Mega Man X inspired sequel series starring Mayday in a more optimistic cyberpunk setting, fighting against Alchemax, and I wondered who would fit the roles of Zero, Vile, and Sigma.

Like, Mayday is easily Mega Man X, she's the successor, and Norman's ghost would be Dr.Wily complete with making Alchemax and a program that would allow him to possess people, but I got nothing for Zero.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#36157: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:25:12 AM

Maybe a relative of Miles Morales as Zero?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#36158: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:26:14 AM

I decided to see what else was in the What If novel series, and the next book to come out is what if Marc Spector becomes Venom. That is definitely something I didn't see coming.

[up][up]Maybe her clone could be one of the three clones of X?

Edited by Digitalhero93 on Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:27:41 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#36159: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:26:32 AM

Zero would be a good Osborn, really.

Wake me up at your own risk.
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#36160: Sep 3rd 2024 at 6:28:21 AM

The White Sheep of the Osborn that is.

As for Vile... Maybe someone taking the mantle of Agent Venom?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36161: Sep 3rd 2024 at 7:00:15 AM

Putting together a Spider-Girl revival fan comic, main story pages are all complete, shared one of them on Facebook and got a comment from Ron Frenz praising my artist's work.

He'd been liking all the samples I'd been posting, but that was his first comment. He suggested something to me too which has helped shape the rest of the story in upcoming issues.

So I can pretty much credit the book with "story by Zarius and Ron Frenz"smile

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36162: Sep 3rd 2024 at 7:02:07 AM

Closest is Normie, I guess it could work since he's been both Venom and Green Goblin.

Still not sure who could be Sigma tho, who even is Spider-Girl's arch-enemy?

[up] Hey congrats, seems someone's fanfiction is coming along nicely.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 3rd 2024 at 10:02:34 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36163: Sep 3rd 2024 at 8:42:27 AM

[up] Hobgoblin was a persistent threat to Mayday after Normie went sane.

Edited by Zarius on Sep 3rd 2024 at 8:42:36 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36164: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:24:36 AM

Yeah but Hobgoblin wouldn't really make things personal, it's all business to him. He even flees from Spider-Girl and ends up going back to the Caribbean IIRC.

So he can't really fulfill a role similar to Sigma or Vile. Ideally, the Sigma stand in should be a hero who was eventually corrupted by something Norman left behind.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#36165: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:27:35 AM

[up]Maybe a version of Kang.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36166: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:37:05 AM

I do feel that Norman does work best in the Spider-Girl era as the long dead menace whose ghost haunts the cast and maybe has a plan or two to spite them from beyond the grave.

I don't really think that vibe works for Norman in the main setting with Peter but I do feel it works spectacularly with Mayday.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#36167: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:46:36 AM

Imagine if some random person found his plan and had no idea what it was or what to do with it.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#36168: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:53:40 AM

That is kind of how Roderick became the Hobgoblin, one of his mooks accidentally found one of Norman's lairs and told him about it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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#36169: Sep 3rd 2024 at 12:39:55 PM

I definitely preferred when Spider-Girl was its own setting, when Arana had her own gadget, the spider legged boleadoras instead of web-shooters, and her own power, a chitinous exoskeleton from a Power Tattoo instead of a spider-sense. What was the point of cancelling Amazing Spider-Girl just to turn Anya Corazon into Spider-Girl? The only thing they didn't do was make her a blood relative to Peter Parker!

I've warmed up to Silk but would much prefer Spider-GwenGhost Spider stay in her own space. Honestly, wouldn't have minded Miles Morales staying Ultimate Spider-Man either.

I recognize that current Ultimate Spider-Man is kind of what people want out of main Spider-Man, but ideally main Spider-Man would be that already. Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Arachne, Arana, Kane, Venom, Anti-Venom. That should have been enough for one 616 USA. Still can be, just swap out Arana for Silk but revert Anya to her boleadoras and carapace in future Spider-Verse/web of life events, while Silk inherits the Spider Society/Web Corps and Sisterhood of the Wasp as her rogues. Maybe Goddess can have adventures too, since her fundamentally non human nature would make her different enough from the rest(but come up with a less generic name than "Goddess"). Maybe let X-Men/X-Men Green keep their Spider-Girl, since Spider-Man is only on their periphery, and again, she's fundamentally different from the rest as a giant spider attending human classes! Even then, just leave Arachne in Canada. Say she's part of some USA-Canada good will project. She can visit USA, live in USA even, but work in Canada.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#36170: Sep 3rd 2024 at 2:31:49 PM

[up]I like that, although you forgot Spider-Boy, which a lot of people don’t like but tbh he’s kind of grown on me, especially since Peter wasn’t dumb enough to pull a Batman and Robin, but instead just started training the kid but kept him on strictly joke villains while he learned.

Also they’re making a new Spider-Girl with a terrible costume. Although maybe it’s just me hating the current trend of mixing street wear into costumes.

Edited by GateStarX on Sep 3rd 2024 at 2:32:55 AM

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
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Funny but not helpful
#36171: Sep 3rd 2024 at 3:17:38 PM

Spider-Boy seems perfectly endearing to me. The worst part is the Suddenly There All Along retcon but the angst that's been squeezed out of that has been decent drama.

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#36172: Sep 3rd 2024 at 3:32:11 PM

Sure, why not. Spider-Boy can be the somewhat bumbling on and off sidekick Steel Spider was before Venom ate him. He's less interesting than Steel Spider, since that guy didn't actually have spider-powers, and his suit was unlike Peter's web-shooters...but yeah, just working with what we have, there's room for Bailey...barely.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#36173: Sep 3rd 2024 at 4:50:32 PM

Was watching the old Spider-Man: The Animated Series and came to The "Venom Retrns"/"Carnage" two-parter, and an interesting question sprung up. Was the Carnage symbiote born evil? And this probably applies to most continuities, not just this one.

The Venom symbiote was around for a long time, so it has life experience. When it was bonded to Peter, it made him a dick, but Peter wasn't the first time it had bonded to something, (at least most of the time). The symbiote was hella old and knew stuff about how the universe worked, and it changed Peter's behavior to suit its desires. But the very first thing the Carnage symbiote did after its birth was bond with Cletus "I'm a serial killer who really loves his job" Kasady. Would the symbiote have been a bad guy even if it had bonded with someone nice? Or was the symbiote a tabula rasa that could have turned into a nice "person," except that it bonded to Kasady, who then influenced it, making the symbiote lust for murder?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#36174: Sep 3rd 2024 at 4:53:55 PM

The Tabula Rasa thing might be the case, or something close to that.

As I understand it, Kasady doesn't say we are Carnage. He and the symbiote are so firmly united that they see themselves as a singular being.

So if the symbiote was in it's very early stages, maybe it just assimilated Kasady's mannerisms and way of thinking before it could form its own thoughts and opinions because so young.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 3rd 2024 at 4:54:11 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#36175: Sep 3rd 2024 at 10:03:44 PM

It's nice to know from today's Spider-Boy issue that Bailey never kept his identity a secret from his mom, which feels like Slott crapping on how Peter never tells Aunt May at all


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