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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35901: Aug 9th 2024 at 8:16:39 PM

There's been an Octoverse mini event for Devil's Reign.

Only a matter of time before the Goblinverse because it's Marvel.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35902: Aug 9th 2024 at 8:26:36 PM

About the new Ultimate Spidey solicit.

Ha Black Cat now literally is black.

Wonder what's her connection to the Cat whose going to be apart of Fisk's Sinister Six.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35903: Aug 9th 2024 at 9:27:47 PM

That happened before in Spider-Gwen tho.

She was also trying to get revenge on Matt Murdock.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35904: Aug 10th 2024 at 12:38:58 AM

I wonder if, rather than make Walter and the new BC father and daughter, Hickman will simply have them be husband and wife? It'd fit a pattern of taking all the love interests in Peter's life and having them already taken in this series.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35905: Aug 10th 2024 at 4:59:51 AM

But on to something else, I really dug Peter's conversation with Venom in the current Venom War run. Pete's mended fences with Brock, and has talked with Flash while he wore the symbiote, but he's never really had a heart to heart with the alien itself. So him laying the ground rules and making it clear "Fine. We're cool now, and I'll wear you for now. But I've seen you do good with Flash. I've seen you save the world with Eddie. You don't get to pull the 'I don't know any better' card anymore. So your actions are on you." was a pretty cool turn in their relationship.

And should finally put an end to the narrative that the symbiote was the real victim when peter discarded it because he didn't want to be forced to be its host.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35906: Aug 10th 2024 at 5:16:48 AM

Is the idea that the symbiote makes it’s hosts more aggressive still a thing in the comics or has that been phased out?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#35907: Aug 10th 2024 at 9:00:01 AM

[up] It's still there, but it's kinda evolved into a more nuanced "both the host and symbiote accentuate each other's attributes, for better or for worse".

Venom just mentioned how Eddie's hatred for Spiderman stoked it's own scorn for him early on, and Normies Osborn has been struggling to handle Rascal making him more angry.

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IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#35908: Aug 10th 2024 at 9:03:11 AM

It's still a thing, but the symbiote making the host more aggressive has never been the default of the comic books. If a symbiote WANTS to make its host more aggressive it will, but that's a two way street.

The original symbiote, Flexo, the robot that came from the alien "rubber" back in the 1940s that was retconed into being a symbiote, it wasn't aggressive at all. Venom initially wasn't aggressive either, just restless and thrill seeking, until Peter Parker rejected it, and even then it had to really learn aggression from Eddie Brock.

Hybrid was aggressive sometimes, but only sometimes. It was the symbiotes stopping the hosts from going overboard just as much as it was the host reigning in the symbiotes as they debated morality. The purple symbiote that ran away from Shreik, it was definitely un aggressive, it didn't even like to bite heads and eat brains. Toxin tried to make its host more aggressive, twice. Failed the first time, succeeded for a little while the second time, but only because Eddie Brock wasn't in the best of states to begin with, and he reigned it in once he got his head together.

It's really All Black and Grendel, the big brothers of the symbiotes, who makes people more aggressive. There are some bad seeds like ZZZXX and of course Carnage, but the large majority of symbiotes can be managed.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35909: Aug 10th 2024 at 9:08:43 AM

Even Carnage might have been more chill if its first host wasn’t Cletus fucking Cassidy

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35910: Aug 10th 2024 at 9:23:09 AM

Yeah that’s why I asked because the increased aggression was something from the cartoon, not comic.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35912: Aug 12th 2024 at 8:21:43 AM

Eh

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35913: Aug 12th 2024 at 8:23:51 AM

Can't wait for Shay and Paul to get together.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#35914: Aug 12th 2024 at 8:24:23 AM

And leave the book. How much longer ks zeb in this run.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35915: Aug 12th 2024 at 8:26:46 AM

I was so sure that Peter X Norman was going to be the endgame of this run, but I guess Marvel were cowards.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#35916: Aug 12th 2024 at 9:01:04 AM

No joke. They have better sexual tension than he does with Shay

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#35917: Aug 12th 2024 at 9:13:53 AM

If this lasts even a year, I'll be shocked.

chino514 (Apprentice)
#35918: Aug 12th 2024 at 9:41:45 AM

Ok, put in your bets everyone, how is this going to end?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#35919: Aug 12th 2024 at 9:44:12 AM

Another alien infiltration plot.

Wake me up at your own risk.
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
Thesegougou from Earth-1218 (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35922: Aug 12th 2024 at 10:32:35 AM

Dumb ol Lars and his jars

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#35923: Aug 12th 2024 at 10:40:18 AM

Paul is the Octogoblin.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35924: Aug 12th 2024 at 10:48:01 AM

Man, we are never going to forget about Paul with all the memes.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#35925: Aug 12th 2024 at 10:54:56 AM

Screwball is going to screw up his date, because that's her job, but Shay will enjoy it anyway. If that doesn't happen they better have a really good alternative!

Buldogue's lawyer

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