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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#35751: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:23:24 AM

Yeah, I'm actually ok with that.

Nothing lasts forever in comics, except poor Uncle Ben's demise, but if this takes villainous Norman off the table for a decade or so, rather than using him as Final Boss in every run... yeah, I'm good with that. Probably better for him in the long run even if he does relapse.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35752: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:24:04 AM

Well people who have been complaining that Green Goblin is overused as a villain can rejoice now. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#35753: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:27:28 AM

So, who will be Peter's lead rogue? Will Ock take the mantle again?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35754: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:28:29 AM

Shocker, obviously.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35755: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:34:19 AM

The sin stuff is still stupid stupid bullshit. And Norman is not without sin until he admits he kidnap murdered Peter’s baby.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35756: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:34:25 AM

[up][up]So now Spidey will be the one chased to the ends of the earth?

Cool. Shocker, it is.[lol]

Edit: [up]Fair enough. Although, in order for that to happen, they need to defeat a foe even worse than the Green Goblin.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 30th 2024 at 10:36:22 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35757: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:35:09 AM

Never forget that Shocker defeated Spider-Man in his debut.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35758: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:38:37 AM

Wasn't that due to Peter having a broken arm from a fight with the Lizard?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35759: Jul 30th 2024 at 10:39:07 AM

I never said Shocker won fair and square.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#35760: Jul 30th 2024 at 12:40:28 PM

[up][up][up][up]The Greener Goblin.

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IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#35762: Jul 30th 2024 at 4:54:18 PM

So imagine you're a writer, an artist, a coder, a designer, a director, a producer, a liaison, a COO, a CCO. You're working for Shueisha, or Hasbro, or Nintendo, or NBC Universal, or CJ ENM, or MGM, or Toei Animation, or Microsoft, or Bushi Road or BBC1.

You read/hear this

...but Marvel told them not to create any new villains because they didn't want Sony to get them.
and assuming you had any desire to work with Marvel to begin with, do you still have any left, now that someone has suggested they're stamping on their own feet in an attempt to make their own partner stumble? You know I heard the last Marvel versus Capcom was a step down in quality. I didn't think anything of it. I figured the Attack On Titan crossover was going to be ass as soon as I heard it was also an Avengers-Guardians of the Galaxy crossover, but I figured that was a blunder of ignorance, not an attack of malice. But this is the third time I've heard of Marvel's messing something up for no good reason. Let's see if we can find a pattern here, before we assume good faith with these people. Let's start asking their partners, their Disney overseers, their fans what Marvel is really about.

That's how I'd be thinking, if I was working for another brand that might otherwise have something to gain from a joint project with Marvel. I can't even imagine how the owner of a property, rather than a mere cog in the machine, might feel about trusting these guys to come to a mutually beneficial agreement and then honor it.

Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on Jul 30th 2024 at 4:54:39 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35763: Jul 30th 2024 at 5:18:32 PM

Yeah. When it comes to those rights issues, Marvel did start to cut off their own nose to spite their face.

It's even worse with Sony because they, more than anyone, refuse to let go under any circumstances, to the point where they're actively trying to create their own universe with Spider-Man.

I feel like this whole thing has brought out the worst in a lot of people.

That being said, we have gotten the Spiderverse movies and the 3 Sony Spider-Man games out of it.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#35764: Jul 30th 2024 at 5:47:09 PM

It's even worse with Sony because they, more than anyone, refuse to let go under any circumstances, to the point where they're actively trying to create their own universe with Spider-Man.

Sony's own universe with Spider-Man...which consists of no Spider-Man and it's just his villains getting roped into stuff, again, without Spider-Man.

And there isn't even, I don't know, Spider-Man 2099 because a cyberpunk setting would be too expensive for the Sony higher-ups or something?

I mean, yeah, we got the animated Spider-Verse movies and the Insomniac games, but that's only because those were from people who had an idea of what to do with the Spider-Toy Box. Heck if I know what the frick is going on with the live-action movies.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35765: Jul 30th 2024 at 5:51:38 PM

And the thing is, that's good money itself. Hell, just holding the gaming rights to Spidey would probably make Sony gangbusters since it's exclusive to their specific systems.

But they gotta have those film right too, even though they clearly have zero clue what they're doing.

Sometimes, that quest for the all mighty dollar leads to some really dumb decisions....unless they are making a lot of money. Then it's not dumb....even if it's still dumb.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35766: Jul 30th 2024 at 11:40:32 PM

Judging from sneak peak interior art shared on twitter by artists, Peter's date from Ravencroft Shay will be sticking around

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35767: Jul 30th 2024 at 11:55:00 PM

Trailer for the Venom War event by Al Ewing and Iban Coello.

Oh wow the trailer is cut like a wrestling promo with voice acting even.

That's new.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 30th 2024 at 11:55:09 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35768: Jul 31st 2024 at 1:32:37 AM

Bah Gawd! It's Slime Cold Eddie Brock, the most venomous SOB of the Marvel Universe!

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#35769: Jul 31st 2024 at 2:56:22 AM

Tbc it does seem like these restrains have been loosened. Miles has been building his own original rogues gallery.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35770: Jul 31st 2024 at 3:26:01 AM

So Lowe reveals in today's ASM letters page that this issue and next were supposed to be Zeb's final issues, meaning he was going to end his run with Peter 'permanently' purging the Goblin from Norman and not fix anything else, but now it's a Series Fauxnale and Zeb 'agreed' to wrap up with ASM#60

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35771: Jul 31st 2024 at 3:26:50 AM

More Gold Goblin here we come.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#35772: Jul 31st 2024 at 4:22:06 AM

I can't find that letters page. Is it in the comic itself or a podcast or something?

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35773: Jul 31st 2024 at 4:33:05 AM

[up] The comic, I saw the scans on discord

Oh, and great ending to Shadow of the Green Goblin

616 Peter confirms he's married and a father in the future

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#35774: Jul 31st 2024 at 4:42:37 AM

[up] Finally some good news! <3

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35775: Jul 31st 2024 at 4:49:27 AM

Wait, Who is Peter married to there?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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