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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#35626: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:11:15 AM

Punch Thanos in the purple dick and steal Death so he can thrash her properly.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35627: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:13:02 AM

Doom vs Thanos is very 'who is the current writer's fave' in regards to who wins.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35628: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:17:57 AM

TBF, every time Doom and Thanos met, it was never a fair fight for either side since one of them had God powers and the the other didn’t.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35629: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:20:55 AM

So give both of them God Powers, have them written by someone who hates them both, and they then killed each other.

Everyone wins (but Doom and Thanos).[lol]

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35630: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:23:39 AM

Man, Spider-Man need to punch Thanos one of these days.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35631: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:28:25 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/spider_man_punches_thanos.png

Good news

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35632: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:36:52 AM

Power scalers in shambles.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#35633: Jul 24th 2024 at 9:29:38 AM

That was a Or Was It a Dream?, but a good one.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35634: Jul 24th 2024 at 9:33:00 AM

Yes a dream not a hoax not an imaginary tale

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35635: Jul 24th 2024 at 9:37:23 AM

Spider-Man beat up a fire lord tho.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35636: Jul 24th 2024 at 9:41:03 AM

I choose to rewrite that encounter in my head so he won by being smart and not punching harder.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#35637: Jul 24th 2024 at 9:45:51 AM

IIRC it was pointed out that Peter basically spent the entire fight dodging and weaving while striking Firelord anytime he could.

So it was less Spiderman stomping an Herald and more like a Dark Souls boss fight.

Still outrageous but hey.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#35638: Jul 24th 2024 at 11:38:25 AM

Dang I wish that punch wasn't a dream because I could only imagine Death wanting to be part of the Spider-Harem after that.

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#35639: Jul 24th 2024 at 1:03:19 PM

I'm all for killing off Thanos, like for good, forever. Thanks to the success of the MCU character, who is very different from the comic book one anyway, that's not going to happen, but I'd be all for it. Not to be forgotten, not to be shat on, not to be humiliated, just done with, like the way Adversary and Tyrant are done with and moved on from. Actually, have Adversary or something like it with a more original name replace Thanos as "universal bad guy who isn't Mephisto". Doctor Doom, I want to keep around. He's too integral to Marvel in ways Thanos isn't.

I could stand to have Doom taken down a peg or seven though. I get that he's a team villain, so in most cases an individual hero can't look too good against him, and I get that various writers HAVE tried to chip away at the idea of Doom being "both" the second smartest scientist and second greatest arcane spell caster on Earth, but nothing really sticks. None of the various chinks in his armor are really acknowledged long term, unless they're exposed by Fantastic Four or Doctor Strange, which lets be real, aren't the most read Marvel books anymore. Doom needs a definitive, decisive loss to a team that isn't The Fantastic Four. One that never gets avenged, really, because The Fantastic Four stop him when he tries.

And I'm thinking that team would be one that doesn't regularly operate together so as not to overshadow Fantastic Four completely. One that does involve a popular character like Spider-Man though. Like Spider-Man(red and black), Alpha, Spider-Man(black and red), Black Cat and Stargod break down his suit and leave him webbed up. It took five of them, and he got away, but he lost, clean as day, no Doombots. Or maybe Spider-Man, Iceman and Firestar, because everybody loves, or at least halfway respects "Amazing Friends". Or maybe Doom is the Lone Wolf Boss of a Spider-verse event who just gets overwhelmed by the sheer numbers so there can some violence while the spiders are still trying to figure out what the Big Bad is up to.

Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on Jul 24th 2024 at 1:24:00 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35640: Jul 24th 2024 at 1:09:52 PM

Doom needs a definitive, decisive loss to a team that isn't The Fantastic Four. One that never gets avenged, really, because The Fantastic Four stop him when he tries.

You fool! There's only one person who could lead to Doom's destruction. Only one who could lay claim to taking down Victor besides the FF.

It's time for him to face his greatest foe.

Somebody call Squirrel Girl.

It ends how it once began. With more Squirrels than even the King of Latveria can handle.

.....[lol]

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 24th 2024 at 1:10:17 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35642: Jul 24th 2024 at 1:14:23 PM

The moment he speaks of himself in the third person.

And we let him know as well. Now he'll have to decide if it's worth it, and if he can avoid it.

Remember Doom. More Squirrels than you can handle. cool

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35643: Jul 24th 2024 at 7:32:27 PM

Has Spider-Man ever gotten a clean win against Doom?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 24th 2024 at 10:32:42 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#35645: Jul 24th 2024 at 8:04:51 PM

The latest Venomverse was nice in how it waxed philosophical on the interactions between uni and multiverses.

It also pointed out why the Venom from The End story hasn't participated in the various Venomverse stories: the Stark Godmind AI cut it off from the omniverse. Well that answers my question of why couldn't they rope that version in to "Nope" Carnage's multiverse slaughter of Venoms.

But it also raises an interesting question in-universe. If "All Eddies lead to Eventuality", then why didn't that one?

So yeah, good issue.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35646: Jul 25th 2024 at 7:29:21 AM

Ultimate Spider-Man#7 preview

Peter doesn't appear to have a science background at all, and Otto is the one Norman looked to as a prodigy and son. Otto also takes a bit of Peter's DNA

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#35647: Jul 25th 2024 at 7:30:10 AM

Prepping clone saga already. I see

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35648: Jul 25th 2024 at 7:38:16 AM

And a bit of Superior.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#35649: Jul 25th 2024 at 8:25:50 AM

BTW speaking off. I realized something really saddening after it was pointed out to me. Quesada and friends did one more day to open up the comics to all "the new iconic spiderman storylines" we could get.

In that time. The only one we've had that can legit be considered iconic is Superior and it easily could have been done with the marriage.

Edited by miraculous on Jul 25th 2024 at 8:26:21 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35650: Jul 25th 2024 at 8:39:19 AM

It’d be a lot more awkward with the marriage for multiple reasons but MJ could be sent off on an acting job or something during that time so it’s easier for Otto to pass

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