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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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Okay, but they did retcon Judas Traveller as a delusional mutant.
It's also pretty telling even the Clone Saga writers didn't like him, had no idea what to do with him, and felt he was out of place.
Like all magical parts of Spider-Man.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"If this doesn't turn heads at Marvel and gets them thinking "hey, maybe we're going at ASM the wrong way," I honestly don't know what will at this point.
But at the moment they get all those ASM sales and all those USM sales. If ASM was the same as USM, would they still sell those numbers of both, or would they just be diluting USM's appeal and cannibalising their existing audience?
It's not as if ASM is a sales failure. And it's too soon to say whether USM will still have that following when it reaches its own #52 (although it's off to a great start).
Well he's still villainous, but now it's sort of a working man villain where he's old and tired and forced into Suicide Squad-esaque conscription by Agent Gao.
Plus a dash of enemy of my enemy is my friend, as the Carnage Reigns crossover had Scorpion working alongside and protecting Miles from Carnage. Him and the Thunderbolts helped Miles, Iron Man, and Rascal save New York.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 24th 2024 at 2:16:47 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I mean, comic book villains tend to shift exactly how evil they are with how different writers can approach their character.
Doc Ock can go Affably Evil and serve Aunt May cookies and tea, to attempting to commit mass genocide out of spite.
Ditto Mysterio who can go from harmless villain who just wants attention, to psychopath who wants to drive Daredevil insane for petty reasons to being pals with MJ.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Thought sometimes, he's portrayed sympathetically because he's stuck to his Scorpion suit and/or driven mad by the process.
The classic PS 1 videogame and 90s show went with those ideas.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"The comics did the stuck in his suit thing too, but revealed it was psychosomatic and could escape it anytime.
I'm not sure if the experiment had any effect on Mac in 616, because he's also one of the villains we've probably seen the least of pre-transformation, even in flashback sequences. I'm leaning towards no, because The Human Fly, the only other guy to go through the same transformation process, was explicitly a terrible guy before the transformation and acted the exact same afterwards.
Edited by Joshbones on Jun 24th 2024 at 10:08:24 AM
I’ve been playing The Spider-Man PS 4 game recently and got annoyed with the pigeon side quests so it got me thinking, does Spider-Man have a pigeon-based villain?
It's gonna be fun on the bun!Spider-Boy's friend Christina was turned into a pigeon Humanimal by Madame Monstrosity, but she stayed good.
I think Morlun’s threat decay is more a consequence of how his role changed over time.
Morlun initially wasn’t really a villain, exactly. He wasn’t really there to carry the plot or anything. He had a personality, but he was mostly just there to be a big, unstoppable *thing* that Peter needed his totem power-up to defeat. A backdrop and an excuse for that power-up to be necessary, triggering the much more involved actual plot of the story, and immediately removed the moment the larger story was done with him.
Like how the MCU Thor film treated the Destroyer armor, essentially. He was just there to be unbeatably strong, so he was unbeatably strong, end of character description.
Later, when he started to reappear, Morlun had to be retooled into an actual character, so he had to be a more conventional supervillain with a more conventional affect on the story, which meant he had to be more conventionally defeatable since his stories could no longer be excuse plots for Spidey going Super Saiyan. This got even worse for him when they decided to give him a whole squad of like minded villains, because Conservation of Ninjutsu.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 26th 2024 at 9:36:25 AM
Regarding Spectacular Spider-Men, I took that more as Miles discovering he had some attraction to Kamala that had been pushed to the back of his mind until now. I wonder if that'll have some ramifications later on or even in his own title.
Latest blog update (November 5th, 2022).Based on info in ''Moon Knight'' #0
, Bleeding Cool is reporting that the new Amazing Spider-Man writer will be Joe Kelly

I think the totem stuff from JMS' run fit perfectly and gave a really fresh take on the character.
The first arc with Morlun is really good (yeah, there's a minor continuity snafu with Peter calling Morlun the strongest or the first to really tick him off, but I'd say don't take that too literally) and I love the way Peter overcomes him in the end, as well as him sticking to his science roots and never fully buying into the totem stuff.
And in the end, the totem stuff is largely about Ezekiel anyway, who has just been misdirecting his problems onto Peter.
Spider-verse is where it all went wrong (as usual for Spider-verse).