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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35076: Jun 9th 2024 at 7:55:20 PM

Yup, the one and only.

As expected from the show where every significant teacher is related to the uber science academies.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 9th 2024 at 7:55:56 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35077: Jun 9th 2024 at 9:17:34 PM

Dan Slott was also involved in the production so that show had a significant part of his creative DNA and cast of characters.

There was even an out of place Superior adaptation.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#35078: Jun 9th 2024 at 9:34:27 PM

It only lasts like four episodes so a lot of Superior's worst moments don't make it in, it's pretty decent for what that show is.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35079: Jun 9th 2024 at 9:46:30 PM

Yeah but like, this Spider-Man is barely into his first year as a hero. That's like trying to do a Batman who Laughs story when Batman is in his Year One phase.

Superior Spider-Man is a story that relies on the long history of both Spider-Man and Doc Ock you can't just shove it in haphazardly.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#35080: Jun 9th 2024 at 9:46:52 PM

It succeeds because it recognizes what Slott didn't for his Superior - that the plot of it only works for, like, a five issue at most story arc, not the definitive status quo Slott seemed obsessed with trying to make it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35081: Jun 9th 2024 at 9:48:36 PM

As someone who likes bad guy stories, it's less about the length and more that this adaptation lacks the important history for both characters.

Life Story did an adaptation of it for the final issue and I'd say given Doc Ock's role in the story, it worked out quite well.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35082: Jun 9th 2024 at 10:25:16 PM

It's funny for all that series insistence on the heavy science it wasn't the most in depth about it.

The show overused Omnidisciplinary Scientist way too much, so every student was an expert in every possible field of science. Specialties, fields, and levels of intelligence did not exist, everyone just works on whatever random-ass thing that's needed for the plot.

Anya was constructing a vibranium using device, later she makes a radar app and Gwen knows how to jury rig a gamma powered device.

It's like how to use one example, in Big Bang Theory all the characters barring Penny are geniuses but like Sheldon is a theoretical physist while Howard is an engineer. They are both scientists, but Sheldon is focused on proving string theory while Howard's job is getting machines to work.

But in Spider-Man every student is a master engineer.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 9th 2024 at 10:25:46 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35083: Jun 9th 2024 at 10:36:02 PM

There's a scene back in Spider-Man 3, where Connors notes that he's a physicist, not a biologist, but he'll do what he can to analyze the symbiote.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#35084: Jun 9th 2024 at 10:39:39 PM

...wait why wouldn't Curt be a biologist isn't that his whole thing with the lizards?

Edited by Saiga on Jun 9th 2024 at 10:39:45 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35085: Jun 9th 2024 at 10:52:50 PM

He's not Lizard in the Raimi film continuity. [lol]

I guess not getting into Bio did him wonders.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#35086: Jun 9th 2024 at 11:51:51 PM

He is in the games!!

But I figured the plan would be to turn him into Lizard in a future movie if things continued

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35087: Jun 10th 2024 at 12:05:44 AM

Lizard vs Kraven is something I'm surprised doesn't happen much in the comics IIRC.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35088: Jun 10th 2024 at 2:14:08 AM

[up]Puma vs Kraven has also never happened as far as I'm aware. Which is odd because I think it would make for a very interesting clash.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35089: Jun 10th 2024 at 4:08:22 AM

[up] Okay so there are like two versions of the Spider Man 3 game, there’s the PS 2 vs the PS 3 and Xbox versions.

They’re a plot line of Connors becoming the Lizard and Kraven deciding to hunt him down.

In the former, Lizard wins while Kraven wins in the latter.

Just giving context for those who never played them. Because that’s why I brought up Lizard vs Kraven.

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chino514 (Apprentice)
#35090: Jun 10th 2024 at 4:11:26 AM

2017 definitely was when we found there is such thing as too much nerd.

Edited by chino514 on Jun 10th 2024 at 7:20:30 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35091: Jun 10th 2024 at 4:30:02 AM

[up]This is pretty funny to read as someone who saw a lot of complaints about the Raimi movies ignoring Peter's scientific side in the late 2010s[lol].

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#35092: Jun 10th 2024 at 7:46:25 AM

A few interesting points from Jordan White's final X-Men interview:

  • There are plans for Venom beyond Venom War. He doesn't directly say Ewing's staying, but it reads that way.
  • He's taken editorial control of the Spider-Man Unlimited Infinity Comic.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#35093: Jun 10th 2024 at 8:22:08 AM

[up]I would actually be genuinely shocked if Ewing stayed on Venom, considering his run has been kinda running on fumes, is nearing the natural end-point it's been building to the entire time, and he's clearly focusing most of his attention on Immortal Thor.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#35094: Jun 10th 2024 at 8:43:01 AM

I have to say I've not enjoyed Ewing's Venom nearly as much as his X-Men: Red or Immortal Thor run.

But I'd be surprised if he only wrote one Marvel title post-Krakoa, so possibly he'll become full-time writer on Venom and take it in a different direction.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35095: Jun 10th 2024 at 9:06:19 AM

There's a lot of rumors that he's going to be writing a title for DC so that's possibly why he's opening up space for.

[up][up][up][up] As they say to go from one extreme to another is still an extreme. [lol]

Nearly everyone in that cartoon was turned into a teen genius. Even characters like Electro (a race-lifyed Francine Frye in this version) is a teen genius who built her own suit despite Electro typically being a regular or downright stupid schlub being the consistent aspect of his character.

And Sandman's daughter of course was also made into a genius who managed to figure out how to gain her dad's powers and control them better than him cause "science". [lol]

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 10th 2024 at 9:09:08 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35096: Jun 10th 2024 at 9:14:21 AM

Seems to me that if everyone is a science genius, Peter doesn’t really stand out

He doesn’t have to be the specialest boy but his name is in the title

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35097: Jun 10th 2024 at 9:21:35 AM

I remember a review for Spider-Man 2 PS 5 suggesting that Peter should just have focused more on the gadgets while Miles has the electric powers to split the difference between the two.

And TBH, once Peter got the Anti-Venom suit, it was too useful to really switch to Miles for extended periods of time.

Those symbiotes are a pain in the ass to deal with.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35098: Jun 10th 2024 at 9:23:40 AM

Apparently Miles can turn his electricity into a sword now?

Not really sure how that’s more helpful but I saw panels of it happening

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#35100: Jun 10th 2024 at 9:28:48 AM

GRAND TOUR GRAND TOUR

Venom is going to fight a baby.

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