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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#35027: Jun 5th 2024 at 12:36:53 AM

You know I keep hearing a lot about the winkler device and I feel like missed something because I have no idea what that is.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#35028: Jun 5th 2024 at 12:58:34 AM

Winkler was a guy who once worked with Norman back in the Silver Age. He died after stealing his stuff to brainwash people for the Kingpin. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Gerhard_Winkler_(Earth-616)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jun 5th 2024 at 3:59:20 PM

The Protomen enhanced my life.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35029: Jun 5th 2024 at 1:01:46 AM

Yeah that was a whole phase Kingpin went through where he called himself the brainwasher.

This was back in the day when he was more Bond villain than supervillain mob boss.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#35030: Jun 5th 2024 at 6:26:58 AM

If a younger friend were to suddenly call me Mr J just once in a casual conversation I'd probably not even mind or care and continue the conversation even if that's not how they usually call me, so while Kamala got the right idea she did it through Right for the Wrong Reasons.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Jun 5th 2024 at 6:27:07 AM

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35031: Jun 5th 2024 at 6:29:23 AM

It's supposed to show how smart she is, but if she called like a week prior, then she LITERALLY WOULDN"T SUSPECT A THING.

It's just convenience writing from Wells.

I just finished the issue, I DID enjoy the Spider who Gobbles beating the shit out of the Sinister Six again. It's such a STUPID COSTUME but I think I like it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
chino514 (Apprentice)
#35032: Jun 5th 2024 at 6:30:44 AM

I guess the spider-monster mash starts next issue?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#35033: Jun 5th 2024 at 6:31:46 AM

[up][up] Beats what the other hero turned his own archenemy was wearing.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35034: Jun 5th 2024 at 6:37:30 AM

Logically speaking, Ock and Kraven should be the ones most scared of a Peter with Osborne's morals. Kraven saw for himself just how bad that was, and Ock, having been in Peter's body, is well aware of just how much Spidey holds back, and thus should realize just how bad someone who regularly fights the entire team while not using his full strength suddenly being shot up with evil should be.

Ock should have immediately called for a retreat.

I hope Ben knocks some sense into Peter and finally changes back to good as well.

One Strip! One Strip!
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35035: Jun 5th 2024 at 7:07:12 AM

[up] This whole story could be regarded as a high-point for the run if Wells devotes it to rehabilitating Ben

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#35036: Jun 5th 2024 at 7:27:02 AM

[up]Calling something like this a high point for this run is really sad because this would be considered a laughable nadir by the standards of most previous Spider-Man runs, but it really is better than most of what Wells and Lowe have done on the title.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35037: Jun 5th 2024 at 7:32:29 AM

[up] Yes, compared to everything else, all the praise we can muster is 'faint'

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#35038: Jun 5th 2024 at 8:26:26 AM

Wow it really was nice of the sinister six to attack one at a time against spider-goblin instead of all at once. Makes it easy to beat them

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#35039: Jun 5th 2024 at 8:35:57 AM

[up]To be fair they were doing that even back in their Silver Age debut.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35040: Jun 5th 2024 at 9:03:03 AM

Without team training like the X Men or Avengers have, it’s too easy for a single opponent to trick a team into attacking itself during a big fracas. One at a time isn’t a terrible idea if you think you can wear the opponent down. Battle of attrition. It’s just too bad for the Six that Spider-Man rises to the occasion no matter if it’s a gauntlet or all at once.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#35041: Jun 5th 2024 at 9:35:58 PM

Logically speaking, Ock and Kraven should be the ones most scared of a Peter with Osborne's morals. Kraven saw for himself just how bad that was, and Ock, having been in Peter's body, is well aware of just how much Spidey holds back, and thus should realize just how bad someone who regularly fights the entire team while not using his full strength suddenly being shot up with evil should be.

Ironically, Kraven's tried to bring out Spider-Man's darker side a few times in the past. Be careful what you wish for.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#35042: Jun 5th 2024 at 10:12:06 PM

kraven wants to die so he's not concerned about that.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35043: Jun 5th 2024 at 10:16:25 PM

Isn’t this clone son Kraven at this point? Does he still want to die? Why even replace Kraven with his clone son if they’re going to be the same character?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35044: Jun 5th 2024 at 10:31:59 PM

To finally put Kraven to rest but also have a Kraven-esque character they can still use.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35045: Jun 6th 2024 at 1:43:02 AM

NGL, the fact that they killed Kraven but made several identical clones of him feels pretty creatively bankrupt.

Where the hell did his family go?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 6th 2024 at 4:43:15 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#35046: Jun 6th 2024 at 6:21:41 AM

His daughter appeared in Spencer's run during Sinister War, but because she appeared in Sinister War it meant she didn't actually do anything.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#35047: Jun 6th 2024 at 6:23:25 AM

Goes to show that putting fifty villains in your story means most of them don’t stand out

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#35048: Jun 6th 2024 at 6:52:00 AM

[up][up][up]The BND writers made the "brilliant" decision to butcher all of them except his daughter and bring back Kraven in Grim Hunt.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#35049: Jun 6th 2024 at 6:52:41 AM

Yeah I remember Grim Hunt, but I legit forgot they all died in that one.

Also isn't his daughter like 10 or something?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#35050: Jun 6th 2024 at 7:04:18 AM

Anyone notice on twitter that Nick Lowe has been reminiscing on his era as editor of the Spidey books?


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