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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

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Goku Black
#34951: May 24th 2024 at 5:08:59 AM

Ultimate spider man also used it. Tbh I think most people think of green goblin and Norman as a split personality of good man and evil monster rather than bad man turned worse which we only got with spectacular spider man. And ngl I fully expect Insomniac will do it as well.

Due to how many works use it I don't really mind them in importing it as frankly I've always thought Norman lost all ot of nuance after the Clone saga

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#34952: May 24th 2024 at 5:27:36 AM

I mean, they can't really backport it because Norman still did all that evil stuff in his backstory. There's a miniseries going on right now about the Proto-Goblin and how his life sucks, and Norman was responsible for ruining that guy's life.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34953: May 24th 2024 at 7:23:24 AM

I was talking about synergy with the MCU since there's a GOOD Norman Osborn variant running around after NWH.

And now the comics can actually run with good guy Norman Osborn.....forever if they want.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 24th 2024 at 10:23:48 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34954: May 24th 2024 at 11:49:52 PM

In the preview for Jackpot/Black Cat#3, Paul is referred to as "boyfriend" rather than "partner" in the book's recap page. I can't tell if that's supposed to be a relationship downgrade or upgrade depending on how you previously interpreted his status as 'partner' as 'partner' has different meanings

Edited by Zarius on May 24th 2024 at 11:51:07 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#34955: May 25th 2024 at 9:56:53 AM

A previous recap page of ASM called Paul her husband before that was quietly pushed aside.

It's abundantly clear nobody has any idea what Paul's actual purpose in this story is.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#34956: May 25th 2024 at 9:59:36 AM

To be shilled and keeping Peter and MJ apart. He feels like he was included as a mandate, really.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34957: May 25th 2024 at 10:00:49 AM

It would explain why everything about him is so half-assed and transparent.

Nobody is even trying to pretend he's anything but an obstacle to Peter and MJ.

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GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#34958: May 25th 2024 at 5:21:25 PM

I also read Symbiote Spider-Man 2099 #3. Enjoyed Miguel and Kron's quality bonding time as they're wreaking havoc with their symbiotes. I wasn't expecting Conchata to break the news to Gabriel as well. It's kind of melodramatic, but I guess necessary. I'm interested by all the 2099 characters coming onto the fray by the end, especially Doom.

Also, another voiced section of Spectacular Spider-Men, this time with Lacey Chabert back as Gwen Stacy and Zehra Fazal as Kamala Khan.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#34959: May 25th 2024 at 5:40:50 PM

Has Miguel's symbiote been named yet? I know the Venom symbiote is the OG one though.

Edited by GateStarX on May 25th 2024 at 5:41:19 AM

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#34960: May 25th 2024 at 5:49:39 PM

Still find it amusing that, according to 2099, the Venom symbiote would evolve to look like how it does there. But according to other stories set further in the future it just looks like normal.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#34961: May 25th 2024 at 5:50:46 PM

With Eddie time-travelling they should have done an issue in 2099.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34962: May 26th 2024 at 7:01:04 AM

Okay Spider bros, minor victory, my house guest managed to watch the Lizard episode and she has a slightly better opinion on Peter.

So I've asked her to write an essay for each episode she watches because I wanted to test her media literacy and how well she can present her thoughts on text.

AND THIS IS THE RESULT!

" First of all why the fuck or how the fuck did he survived that incident (being shocked by electricity while getting slammed on glass soaked in water) The only interesting thing about this is how the cheerleader gets to spend time with Peter and keeps treating him like shit. Unlike the person who survived not being able to drink his so-called lousy piece of coffee. Alternatively, maybe the problem is that Max was a virgin before and after the incident occurred. Additionally, how the fuck does aunt May not hear all the slamming and banging on the phone and what is up with the kink of lizard DNA? and why is peter just straight up stupid who would want to shake hands with a guy whos like electric like who does he think he is Pikachu??"

My god, media literacy is dying thanks to the American education system.

She kinda half assed it, but she did like the Lizard episode.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#34963: May 26th 2024 at 1:50:52 PM

They should have Mary Jane battle Goblin!Peter so she can have the line, "Face it, Tiger, the Jackpot hit you."

Edited by Hodor2 on May 26th 2024 at 1:51:19 AM

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Goku Black
#34964: May 26th 2024 at 1:54:37 PM

You know with how common that joke is and how wells is a hack. I don't doubt we'll get it.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#34965: May 26th 2024 at 1:56:39 PM

I meant to add in my post that I wondered if that joke had been used in a comic before.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34966: May 26th 2024 at 2:10:32 PM

I think there was a picture of her making that joke, but I don't know if it has actually happened in the comics.

Too bad that negative reception towards Jackpot would probably sour people on it, because as bad jokes go, I'm pretty ok with it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#34967: May 26th 2024 at 7:23:28 PM

Honestly it's the kind of corny joke Peter would use. So even Goblin-ified I think he'd find it funny.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#34968: May 26th 2024 at 7:26:35 PM

He'd probably say that jokes like that one are his thing.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34969: May 26th 2024 at 7:27:58 PM

[up]And that would, in turn prove that everyone who hates him in-universe (including some heroes) are justified to do so

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34970: May 26th 2024 at 8:42:30 PM

Marvel keeps running that line to the ground, triply so with Jackpot being a thing.

Face it Marvel, you ruined the Jackpot line.

Granted, that might have been the goal.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#34971: May 26th 2024 at 9:24:36 PM

@Red Hunter isn't your house guest just a kid? I wouldn't worry too much. Her ability to analyze media will likely evolve as she gets older.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34972: May 26th 2024 at 10:16:52 PM

She's 14.

Like it's funny, she can voice out her problems quite well but can't put it on text.

Curse you American educational system!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34973: May 29th 2024 at 12:24:20 AM

Ultimate Spider-Man#5

We learn Fisk passed down ownership of Stark Industries to Harry and Gwen, who uncover the Iron Man suites with the help of Otto Octavius. Gwen has Otto sign a big NDA and Otto helps design and suit up Harry with the Goblin tech. Later we learn Harry defeated The Shocker after he beat Spider-Man, Shocker tells Harry he acquired his weapons from a superhero prospect Tony was looking to recruit but he was dead when Shocker got there. Cut to Peter and Harry sharing drinks and arranging the dinner date from last issue. We then see Harry interrogate a prisoner he met when he was recruited by Fisk

Great read, though it did feel short, the twist with The Shocker having appropriated his gear from a deceased man Stark was trying to equip makes me wonder if it was natural causes or if there's a superhero prospect serial killer on the loose. Peter's short appearance was great and he got to make a pretty emphatic badass statement about what he feels he's destined to do. Also like the foreshadowing of loss from Harry's prisoner was directed at Harry and not to Peter.

Cover lies btw Uncle Ben doesn't interview Harry, nor appears at all in the issue

Edited by Zarius on May 29th 2024 at 12:26:24 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34974: May 29th 2024 at 1:27:21 AM

Jackpot/Black Cat#3

If you don't like Paul, you'll love this issue. Dude gets soundly beaten up on a subway train, and although MJ appears to finally call him her 'boyfriend', it's off-panel and could have been said by anybody to anyone due to the commotion in the carriage. Also, MJ spends the whole fight on the subway (against the likes of Rocket Racer, Squid, and Tracer) thinking about Peter and the lessons he's taught her in the relationship, all while Paul continues to cower and ask for her help. Finally, she's bailed out by Felicia, who agrees to help her take down her girlfriend Bandwidth

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34975: May 29th 2024 at 1:28:49 AM

If this is how they keep Paul, then they might as well.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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