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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#34926: May 23rd 2024 at 12:29:20 PM

Honestly, this whole experience of looking at the next generation of fans, both RedHunter's thing and others I've seen online, is quite fascinating. For as many of Marvel's attempts at legacy characters end up not working, seeing one of the ones that did evolve like this is interesting. There's an entire generation of fans now that have always seen Miles as an integral part of the mythos and sometimes even prefer him. Is this how Barry Allen fans felt about Wally West, I wonder? (I mean, normal Barry Allen fans, not people like Dan DiDio. We all know how that went.)

Edited by lbssb on May 23rd 2024 at 3:29:45 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34927: May 23rd 2024 at 12:34:15 PM

Don't forget fans like my guest think the massive amounts of Spider-People are integral to Spider-man thanks to the movies.

Every time I have casual conversations with family members who only know the movies, things turn to "Oh I like Hobie Brown Spider-Man the most." "I heard Pavitr Prabhakar has his own comic series"

Oh boy, I could not tell him the Spider-Man india comics were not accurate to the one in the movie.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#34928: May 23rd 2024 at 12:39:36 PM

The constant 'I swear, this is the last one' Spider-Verse comic events don't help. XD

OOH! you could show her the Spider-Wars cartoon event, which paved the way for the modern takes and has Peter reflecting on how after everything he likes his life!

Edited by lalalei2001 on May 23rd 2024 at 3:39:48 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34929: May 23rd 2024 at 12:42:08 PM

Yeah but that's the finale of the Cartoon.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#34931: May 23rd 2024 at 1:05:30 PM

First three pages of Ultimate Spider-Man #5 are up now!

E.D.N.O.I.A.D: Even dead, Norman Osborn is a dick.

Real talk, will we be seeing Aunt May's last seconds, too?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 23rd 2024 at 4:20:16 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#34932: May 23rd 2024 at 1:10:33 PM

"And what does Green Goblin know of the true status of the world he lives in?"

Uh oh.

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#34933: May 23rd 2024 at 1:10:57 PM

I do kinda appreciate spider man unlimited for the ideas. That I wish some would be imported back. Like they did green goblin (and tbh it probably is meant to br Harry) as a friend and partner to Peter before ultimate and there Verison of vulture is one of my favs. A sauve antihero.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#34934: May 23rd 2024 at 2:38:56 PM

You know what I'm picking up from the discussion about Spider-Man's silver age era is that it's basically a dead horse trope nowadays. Literally everything about it has culturally changed and thanks to the sliding timeline it makes Peter Parker and his supporting cast look much worse in comparison.

The only thing that seems that it can be kept are mainly the origin e.g. Ostracised Peter Parker gets bit by a radioactive/genetically-altered spider, starts acting like a dick when the power goes to his head, which inadvertantly gets Uncle Ben killed, and he learns the famous motto. Other than that everything else has culturally changed.

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TigerClaw Since: Oct, 2023
#34935: May 23rd 2024 at 2:41:50 PM

"Part of her arguments about why Spectacular Pete should confide in with Gwen and Harry is that he can actually share the burden of being Spider-Man with his friends. Ganke is like really good support for Miles, and so is Hailey who my guest actually likes with Miles."

You should mention that the game version of Ganke is pretty idealized compared to his original comic counterpart, who was guilty of being loose-tongued and revealing Miles' secret without his consent.

Ganke along with Ultimate Katie Bishop really showed the pitfalls of revealing your secrets to people. Its actually a important lesson to teach children that unconditionally trusting in people doesn't always lead to positive outcomes. (Sorry Raya and the Last Dragon)

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#34936: May 23rd 2024 at 2:47:58 PM

The more tragic example would be Karen Page, who was trustworthy when she found out Daredevil's identity, but life took a sharp turn for her and she sold him out for drug money.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#34937: May 23rd 2024 at 2:54:30 PM

I feel like the Romita era resonated with readers at the time cause Peter was allowed to have proper friends compared to the mostly friendless Ditko era and the returning cast had matured, like Flash joining the Army.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#34938: May 23rd 2024 at 4:46:20 PM

The influx of new fans who came in cause of Spider-Verse shows an interesting distinction between casual fans who just watch movies and fans who engage in the comics.

Movie fans see the spider-people and think they are cool but comic fans find them a bit annoying because the concepts gotten very redundant.

As it turns out having a hundred characters with the same powers is not the bastion of creavity people think it is. They don't have to deal with the character overload cause they just watch the movies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chino514 (Apprentice)
#34939: May 23rd 2024 at 4:50:38 PM

Is it also that the focus on the multiverse as this trend for media recently really is showing the cracks that lie in the concept?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#34940: May 23rd 2024 at 5:16:28 PM

I like specific spider-people with cool stories and some of the sillier ones, but the massive amounts are a bit much.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34942: May 23rd 2024 at 9:25:34 PM

Solicits are out

Looks as though Everything's back to normal in ASM, and they've hit ASM#950, which will be another big battle with Tombstone, who appears to still be Kingpin in this part of the timeline (Fisk having reclaimed the role over in Daredevil)

And a new anthology focusing on Peter's aggressive streaks in the black costume...writers include J.M Dematties, and...J.MICHEAL STRAZYNSKI!

Edited by Zarius on May 23rd 2024 at 9:25:45 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34943: May 24th 2024 at 1:51:14 AM

So they brought back the Spider who Gobbles only to undo it again in less time than the last time?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#34944: May 24th 2024 at 2:56:23 AM

What a waste of time.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34945: May 24th 2024 at 2:59:57 AM

JMS's story for the anthology sounds interesting and it can rather temptingly be an Author's Saving Throw or a Fix Fic

It's revealed a piece of the symbiote never left Peter and had been plotting to tear Peter apart emotionally. All of a sudden this is an excuse for every aggressive or boneheaded act Peter has ever had in the comics, like hitting Mary Jane or even agreeing with Mephisto

Edited by Zarius on May 24th 2024 at 3:00:05 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34946: May 24th 2024 at 3:30:44 AM

No, there's no hope that they'll even allow JMS to undo Mephisto's deal.

Best to abandon hope for 616 Spider-Man and start anew with a different Spider-Man.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 24th 2024 at 6:30:57 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#34947: May 24th 2024 at 3:43:17 AM

We've all just gotta wait 20 some odd years and wait for One of Us to become the new editor for Spider-Man, then it'll be retconned.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#34948: May 24th 2024 at 4:10:44 AM

[up][up][up] Suddenly, Peter picking fights with the F4 and Captain America plus accepting a job from Oscorp in spite of not trusting Norman from the start in the Wells run would make way more sense. surprised

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34949: May 24th 2024 at 4:23:09 AM

The dumbest part is that they actually have a back door ready to keep Good Guy Norman since they retonned the sins as a full on split personality and Good Guy Norman Osborn is still his own man.

Just wow. Synergy much?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#34950: May 24th 2024 at 4:48:22 AM

[up] Synergy that's a bit over 20 years late. The concept of Gobby and Norman being split personalities was only a thing for the first Raimi movie and the 90's cartoon, right? (Did NWH use it too or no?)


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