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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34851: May 21st 2024 at 5:20:38 PM

I think MJ hit the hat trick if you consider alternate universes.

She was both a spider and a symbiote in Renew Your Vows, a spider in Mangaverse, a goblin in Ultimate, a symbiote in Spider-Gwen.

I think we should get some Ocks, to vary things up. Mary Jane Ockson.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#34852: May 21st 2024 at 5:48:28 PM

Honestly it feels like having a supporting cast in the Marvel and DC universes is a dead trope. Apparently the company’s think no one cares if you’re not doing superhero stuff so they push that to the wayside. Besides the butchering of Mary Jane and the walking corpse of Aunt May I don’t think Peter even has a life outside superheroing.

But also yeah let’s start grafting tentacles to everyone, that wasn’t at all incredibly painful for Doc Ock the first time right?

Edited by GateStarX on May 21st 2024 at 5:49:19 AM

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#34853: May 21st 2024 at 5:53:41 PM

He keeps going back to them, so apparently it doesn't hurt that much.

#IceBearForPresident
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34854: May 21st 2024 at 5:58:30 PM

[up]×3

Gwen too, if we are including alternate universe counterparts.

Edited by Cortez on May 21st 2024 at 5:58:40 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34855: May 21st 2024 at 6:07:46 PM

It's hard to build a supporting cast because every time a run ends, the next writer tends to throw everything in the trash.

The Captain America Sentinel of Liberty book established Steve in a new living situation with a bunch of interesting neighbors and him taking a digital art class to play up his artistic side.... annnd the run got so deep in the weeds with the stupid Outer Circle stuff it barely did anything with it. And then the next run has Steve in a different apartment building with new neighbors.

You'd think Iron Man would have a more stable supporting cast since most of them worked at his business except WHOOPS he divested his business interests.

Eh, I guess Thor is still doing okay in the supporting cast regard. He occasionally drops his entire Asgard cast but they always come back.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#34856: May 21st 2024 at 6:16:47 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Also artificial symbiote, if you count the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon, where she become a version of Carnage derived from a Venom variant extracted from Peter.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on May 21st 2024 at 9:17:14 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#34857: May 21st 2024 at 6:35:08 PM

The 2017 Spidey cartoon us also very aggressive in having rhe civilians be helpful.

Due to the genius school setting literally every episode's conflict is resolved by a student going "Actually I developed an app for this problem" or jury-rigging whatever plot relevant gadget to save the day.

Hell a lot of the time the episodes would have Spidey getting his ass-kicked for most of the fight while the students build the thing to solve the problem.

Makes damsel scrappies come across as better characters cause at least they don't trivialize the main character.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34858: May 21st 2024 at 6:43:46 PM

[up]×3

Happens to Hulk a lot too. Like how the supporting cast from Immortal Hulk just disappeared in Cates run.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#34859: May 21st 2024 at 7:47:14 PM

I remember in the Peter's birthday issue every person at Peter's party was someone we hadn't seen for like five years at that point.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#34860: May 22nd 2024 at 12:49:30 AM

I think we should get some Ocks, to vary things up. Mary Jane Ockson.

Peter: I'm pretty sure I had a nightmare like this once.

Due to the genius school setting literally every episode's conflict is resolved by a student going "Actually I developed an app for this problem" or jury-rigging whatever plot relevant gadget to save the day.

Hell a lot of the time the episodes would have Spidey getting his ass-kicked for most of the fight while the students build the thing to solve the problem.

I admittedly haven't seen this show aside from a few clips on Youtube. That said, this sounds almost like a welcome change of pace from civilians hating Marvel heroes.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#34861: May 22nd 2024 at 1:10:53 AM

One of the things I love about Insomniac is the average person on the street likes spider man.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34862: May 22nd 2024 at 2:24:36 AM

Spider-Man's twitter account also isn't full of horrible racism or internet bullshit for some reason. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34863: May 22nd 2024 at 2:40:22 AM

Ok, so read ASM#50 and... The sins of the Goblin appear to be their own thing now and controlling Norman, his sane self is still in there somehow. Turns out after they buried Kraven, Peter and Norman both used the Winkler device too

In the epilogue we find Living Brain and Curt Connors teaming together to try and save Spider-Man

Sing along now

The Lizard and The Brain, The Lizard and The Brain, one is a genius, the other's insane

Edited by Zarius on May 22nd 2024 at 2:43:40 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34864: May 22nd 2024 at 2:50:28 AM

Wait what? Can you summarize the issue?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34866: May 22nd 2024 at 3:01:35 AM

[up][up] There's not much to summarise really, most of the issue is just one big excuse for Mcguiness to go wild with a Spidey vs Goblin fight. Some of the stuff you already know like the whole secret passwords that trigger the Goblin personalities within Norman and Peter, which came from their use of the Winkler device. At the end of the story, Kraven digs up the coffin with the spears and senses that the sins on the spear aren't there anymore

Edited by Zarius on May 22nd 2024 at 3:02:23 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#34867: May 22nd 2024 at 3:23:55 AM

I wonder how long this will last.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#34868: May 22nd 2024 at 4:13:33 AM

[up] Ideally, it should last until issue 54 or 55, then the last 5-issue arc will be on Tombstone (and the Living Brain?) for that full circle angle since the first arc was Tombstone and the Living Brain.

(The recurring speculation is that Wells finishes his tenure as ASM writer for 60 issues.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 22nd 2024 at 2:37:09 PM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#34869: May 22nd 2024 at 4:48:31 AM

[up] Good. Treat this like the Rosenberg X-Men run in 2019 ignore it completrly.

Just Makima.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34870: May 22nd 2024 at 4:49:21 AM

Nonsense, Paul will live eternally in the memes.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#34871: May 22nd 2024 at 4:55:11 AM

[up] Paul will live on in our hearts, in his memes, and in a trailer park outside Milwaukee.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#34872: May 22nd 2024 at 6:27:17 AM

Paul, John (Jameson) and a revived George Stacy form a band with a guy named Ringo.

The Beetle sues them for some petty reason, lol.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#34873: May 22nd 2024 at 6:38:01 AM

[up] If only those Skrull-Beatles from Wisdom didn't get killed off in Captain Britain and MI13's tie-in to Secret Invasion.

Edited by TrashJack on May 22nd 2024 at 9:40:00 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#34874: May 22nd 2024 at 8:10:53 AM

Slott's Superior#7 this week has a pretty nuts cliffhanger

Peter having a face off with Otto-possessed Robbie, Jameson (with tentacles) and...Aunt May

Yeah, Otto bodyjacked Aunt May.

Edited by Zarius on May 22nd 2024 at 8:11:11 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#34875: May 22nd 2024 at 8:56:19 AM

Is there any other Doc Ocks we should know about?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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