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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33676: Mar 16th 2024 at 7:38:07 AM

Like I said, the idea would need reworking to work.

I think the Raimi movies probably give a good idea of how it could've been done, with Norman being "possessed" and manipulated by the Goblin persona.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33677: Mar 16th 2024 at 7:44:08 AM

Yeah, but like Spider-Man has demonic/mystical villains like Morlun, and Kindred who aren't exactly well received.

It's best that Spider-Man's villains stay within the realm of science fiction, rather than magic, to match the hero.

Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, all have meta science based origin stories. Sure, it's pretty absurd in some cases where Doc Ock can somehow survive getting caught in a nuclear powered explosion with no scars or any form of cancer, but still.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 17th 2024 at 1:15:35 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33679: Mar 19th 2024 at 2:19:21 PM

Huh. So it's the first new incarnation of Gwen since Ghost-Spider-Gwen, isn't it?

And she's married to Harry? Lets see how that plays out.

One Strip! One Strip!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33680: Mar 19th 2024 at 3:16:13 PM

[up]

That depends, Does Nightbird Gwen count?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33681: Mar 19th 2024 at 3:24:24 PM

Is that the Gwen from What if Dark?

One Strip! One Strip!
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#33682: Mar 19th 2024 at 3:24:36 PM

I like Gwen being alive and Peter still getting with MJ. I think it should happen more often in things.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33683: Mar 19th 2024 at 3:37:36 PM

[up]×2

That's the Gwen from when the Squadron Supreme changed reality.

[up]

And They're still friends! That's nice!

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33684: Mar 19th 2024 at 5:32:29 PM

6160 seems to be getting a lot of mileage out of characters who died or had small roles instead being alive and having big roles, while characters who got dragged out past their expiration like May and Norman are instead promptly disposed of. Definitely something I appreciate, if only because it shows how committed Hickman and company are to making this a legitimately new and weird take.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33685: Mar 19th 2024 at 7:16:11 PM

Norman may be dead, but the Green Goblin lives!

I do wonder if Norman did get the formula in this timeline. No reason he shouldn't, since I think the Maker might want him on his side.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33686: Mar 19th 2024 at 7:26:36 PM

Its funny how this is our first new inclusion of classic Gwen in a while.

Since the character has been largely dominated by Spider-Gwen.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#33687: Mar 19th 2024 at 8:31:22 PM

[up]You've jinxed it. The missing Radioactive Spider will end up biting her and turning her into Spider-Gwen/Woman/Silk.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33688: Mar 19th 2024 at 8:37:36 PM

[up][up]That observation made me realize that while Maker tried to prevent all the superhero origins, he doesn't seem to have bothered doing so with the villains. Shocker is around, Mysterio is too (though he's a hero here), Kingpin and Bullseye as well... some of them are integrated into his system, others aren't. Makes sense; the only supers Maker saw as a threat to his plans were the sort of people with the moral fortitude to try and stop him. He can easily placate villains or even just ignore them. Heroes wouldn't stop trying to overthrow him unless he took steps to either prevent them from existing or meddled in their histories to make them his followers.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33689: Mar 19th 2024 at 10:43:27 PM

Its funny how this is our first new inclusion of classic Gwen in a while.

Too early to say, we haven't actually seen this Gwen yet.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33690: Mar 19th 2024 at 11:47:47 PM

Yeah but she's being introduced not as Spider-Gwen, but as Gwen.

This is the first time in a while the promotional sight of Gwen wasn't immediately brought in with her costume.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33691: Mar 19th 2024 at 11:57:50 PM

[up][up][up] I’ve been wondering if Norman still got the Goblin formula for that very reason.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33692: Mar 20th 2024 at 12:21:09 AM

Meantime in Web of Spider-Man, a new Green Goblin is introduced, and it IS Gwen Stacy!

Boy between this, Ultimate Gwen being married to a Goblin and that hug between Norman and Gwen in Shadow of the Green Goblin previews, one might think Marvel probably still have their secret boner for Sins Past

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33693: Mar 20th 2024 at 12:25:29 AM

Spider-gwen also met a Gwen who was a Green Goblin once too.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33694: Mar 20th 2024 at 1:37:31 AM

A few other highlights from Web of Spider-Man

For the Zeb/Romita story, it's Just three pages where Spidey shows off some legit cunning and competence, beating up Tombstone's men and sending a van full of gun shipments to the bottom of a river

The Gold Goblin story establishes that Norman is very crazy again and he beats Grave Goblin up and takes him back to the limbo embassy

Maddie Pryor lets Ben escape his limbo confinement, saying the 'humane' option has now passed and she has lost interest in being a warden

Looks like the villain in the upcoming Chasm/Kaine crossover is The Eternal Druig

And it looks like the TVA are involved with Ghost Spider's upcoming set up

Edited by Zarius on Mar 20th 2024 at 1:39:36 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33695: Mar 20th 2024 at 2:30:31 AM

[up][up] That Gwen had her own Goblin identity. She technically wasn't Green Goblin. It was just her heroic identity before she went crazy.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33696: Mar 20th 2024 at 6:27:22 AM

Dammit, Madelyne Pryor

Also, Druig was supposed to be in forever jail or manually rebuilding Mars. Dammit, the Eternals and/or mutants!

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#33697: Mar 20th 2024 at 7:00:34 AM

[up] It does raise a question about how he got out. And who's in charge.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#33698: Mar 20th 2024 at 11:48:36 AM

Spider-boy madame monstrosity captures Bailey, and Christina and hellifino remembered that spider-boy was the one who gave madame monstrosity the idea to mix him up that bad. Madame monstrosity then has a flashback about why exactly she hates Bailey so much now, he was her crown jewel able to morph between full spider-and realtively normal kid and he was missing when she brought the high evolutionary to show off her work. He leaves disgusted when she fuses a plumber and a crab and tells her I only came to see your spider shifter, I uplift animals you just smash them together, never contact me again.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33699: Mar 20th 2024 at 2:00:52 PM

[up]I really like Madame Monstrosity being like some weird fangirl for High Evolutionary trying to impress him with her own breed of Weird Animal Science Shit.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33700: Mar 20th 2024 at 6:58:49 PM

Now that embedding is back, here's a short of Spider-Man helping someone get back their Smart Phone.

He's not called the Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man because he fails all the time....despite what Marvel would have you think.

One Strip! One Strip!

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